Death penalty poll

[mark vincent]

Did he commit murder?

Legally, yes.

Therefore the conditions set out in answer no.1, would mean that he would be dead today. Having been executed for commiting the act of murder.

The death penalty may not be appropriate in every case, however some murders are so evil and evidence of guilt so overwhelming that death is the only just penalty.

 

[Deluks]

some murders are so evil and evidence of guilt so overwhelming that death is the only just penalty.

Who decides what evidence counts as being 'overwhelming' enough to be a basis for execution?

...and the 'not so evil murderers' convicted on 'less overwhelming' evidence. Should they be set free on the basis that they are 'not guilty enough' that we can really be sure that they did it?

 

[hi1]

The jury decides based on the evidence. All the evidence, not just that presented by a lawyer. Many trials at the level of Crown Court are nothing more than a 'play' put on by 2 barristers scoring points off one another in which justice , evidence and the truth are far and away a minor consideration compared to how much the legal aid trough will hold.
The winner is the one who cons the jury enough. A vast amount of evidence never sees the light of day. Crown Court is open to the public, pop along one day. 10 to 12, lunch, 2 to 4, rough old day.
Death penalty, hold a referendum ask the people. Our representatives in parliament will no doubt hide behind "its eu law not to have a death penalty". Do what other eu members do if a laws inconvienient, ignore it.
By the way the police pay for their own pensions, 11% of pay. If anyone thinks they can do a better job join the special constabulary show everyone how its done for free. I'd put money on your attitude changing.

 

[mark vincent]

some murders are so evil and evidence of guilt so overwhelming that death is the only just penalty.

Who decides what evidence counts as being 'overwhelming' enough to be a basis for execution?

...and the 'not so evil murderers' convicted on 'less overwhelming' evidence. Should they be set free on the basis that they are 'not guilty enough' that we can really be sure that they did it?

A man murders child, thats an evil murder. A woman who has been abused by a man decides to kill him, both are premeditated so both are murderers so are you saying both should be treated the same.

 

[Space cat]

A man murders child, thats an evil murder.

In 1977 you could expect to get at least 9 months for it.

 

[Deluks]

A man murders child, thats an evil murder. A woman who has been abused by a man decides to kill him, both are premeditated so both are murderers so are you saying both should be treated the same.

Abused woman would go down for manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
In the case of other murders, why is killing a child considered more evil than killing an adult, if the circumstances are the same?


Take 2 murderers in 2 towns. Both decide they are going to walk up behind the first person they see and stab them in the top of the head with a 12" knife. The first murderer kills a 25 year old man. The second killer kills a 10 year old girl.

Is one killer more evil than the other?

 

[mark vincent]

A man murders child, thats an evil murder. A woman who has been abused by a man decides to kill him, both are premeditated so both are murderers so are you saying both should be treated the same.

Abused woman would go down for manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
In the case of other murders, why is killing a child considered more evil than killing an adult, if the circumstances are the same?


Take 2 murderers in 2 towns. Both decide they are going to walk up behind the first person they see and stab them in the top of the head with a 12" knife. The first murderer kills a 25 year old man. The second killer kills a 10 year old girl.

Is one killer more evil than the other?

Yes.A 25 year old man would have a better chance of survival.

 

[joe-90]

I just read somewhere that the BNP will reintroduce capital punishment.

So if you want it - you know who to vote for.

 

[Shytalkz]

Great: then if the main parties see the BNP as a threat, then they'll stick it in their manifestos as well.

 

[joe-90]

No they won't.

 

[Shytalkz]

I can dream can't I?

 

[joe-90]

Yeah. You even dream you are an SE.

 

[godsoftandjoearedull]

Yeah. You even dream you are an SE.

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• godsoftandjoearedull
• 26 Jun 2008
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As ever, Joesephine was displaying no obvious signs of envy.

 

[Shytalkz]

 

[Deluks]

The first murderer kills a 25 year old man. The second killer kills a 10 year old girl.

Is one killer more evil than the other?

Yes. A 25 year old man would have a better chance of survival.

But he's already dead

In any case, how does this make the killer less evil? The intent was to kill in both my examples.