What penalty if found guilty?

[joe-90]

Worse than murder in my book.

Joe, whilst I agree this is an horrific tradegy/act of stupidity, how can it possibly be worse than murder when there was no intent?

Which is the greater loss to society?
Which is the greater crime? Pull a trigger or get behind 3 tonnes of steel when ****ed? I'd lock the driver up until he died.

 

[joe-90]

I didn't say that it is a minor motoring offence, I said it isn't murder.

What is the maximum penalty for dangerous driving?

 

[Spark123]

Yes, I believe it would be murder, just as in this case here: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080521/tuk-jury-retires-in-nurse-shooting-case-dba1618.html[/QUOTE]

So if I accidentally shoot a child I'm a murderer

No accidental about it, if you are unlawfully using a firearm then murder it is.

 

[Spark123]

I didn't say that it is a minor motoring offence, I said it isn't murder.

What is the maximum penalty for dangerous driving?

14 year I think I heard on the news

 

[joe-90]

Yes, I believe it would be murder, just as in this case here: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080521/tuk-jury-retires-in-nurse-shooting-case-dba1618.html[/QUOTE]

So if I accidentally shoot a child I'm a murderer

No accidental about it, if you are unlawfully using a firearm then murder it is.

Shouldn't a 3 tonne Range Rover with a ****ed up driver be the same?

 

[JohnD]

It seems to me that penalties for endangering or killing people with a car are too lenient, compared to endangering or killing them with anything else.

If Fred comes home from the pub, drunk, pokes his shotgun out of the window and looses off a few shots at random, and happens to kill a few members of the public, he is punished severely.

If he comes home drunk, careers about in his car and kills a few people on the pavement, he gets a much softer ride.

But the vivctims are just as dead

I suppose it's because the law-makers drive cars as well.

 

[tim west]

What if the driver intended to kill a certain person, lighter sentence and all?

 

[Spark123]

Nah, that would then be murder imo.

 

[tim west]

Nah, that would then be murder imo.

how do you prove it wasnt an accident?

 

[Spark123]

No accidental about it, if you are unlawfully using a firearm then murder it is.

Shouldn't a 3 tonne Range Rover with a p****d up driver be the same?

2 entirely different crimes, I think he should go down for it yes, however I could say I would like to see every drink driver go down for a stretch but I can't see that happening.

 

[Spark123]

Nah, that would then be murder imo.

how do you prove it wasnt an accident?

Would be up to the police and the courts to decide that one.

 

[tim west]

Nah, that would then be murder imo.

how do you prove it wasnt an accident?

Would be up to the police and the courts to decide that one.

"But I got distracted your honour by my trying to make a call on my mobile".

 

[Spark123]

Any motives would have to be looked at by the police and the CPS to see what cases there are to answer.
In the case of the OP, do you believe the footballer intentionally set out to murder 2 young boys?

 

[Shytalkz]

What motive could there possibly be for getting in a vehicle píssed and driving it?

 

[megawatt]

What motive could there possibly be for getting in a vehicle píssed and driving it?

There's nothing worse than having a crash when you're stone cold sober