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Discussion in 'Trade Talk' started by Sig276, 21 Nov 2008.

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  1. Sig276

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    I'm fairly new to this site and offer free advice. But obviously don't want to break the rules either.

    Sig
     
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    Why not try here too? Many more self-builders on that forum
     
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    Hi WoodYouLike

    I'm on that site as well. But noticed that on this site there didn't seem to be a forum on here and thought i could help.

    Cheers
     
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    Welcome Sig and nice of you to come on board! :D
     
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    the confusion betwixt planning and building regs has never been more prolific, especially with diy.

    welcome aboard Sig. ;)
     
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    yes and god help you! :LOL:
     
  8. Sig276

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    Thanks for the welcome guys!

    A simple explanation of building regs to planning would be thus:

    Planning - looks at how it matches in with the surrounding area and how will affect those around you.

    Building regs - Lets make sure it stays up and you don't see your house drift apart

    About as simple as i can make it.

    Any other questions welcome!
     
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    hi sig

    would i need planning permission for a medium sized conservatory to the back of my detached house?

    cheers
     
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    Hey monkey100

    Firstly a few things to consider. Are you in a greenbelt area or conservation area?
    Do any of your neighbours have similar to what you want?
    for your purpose (conservatory) as long as it takes up no more than half the land around the house and is not higher than the existing eves and ridge, you would probably not need planning permission according to the updated planning regulations. but, this is depending on the actual size of the conservatory.

    My best advice I give to all is if your not sure get some pictures a google sat map and roughly what you want to do, take it to your Local Planning & Building Control office and see the Duty Planning Officer!

    If you're unsure then please do not hesitate to contact me.

    Regards,
     
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    Would I need planning permission for a basement in my house? How thick would the walls have to be and how deep can I go before ive gone too deep? Im thinking 12ft? What sort of floor would i need to have? What sort of risks are there of my basement flooding and if it does flood could i use it as a swimming pool? Will the planners have to know what im using the basement for?? Would I need a window to escape in case of fire?
     
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    Hi Ziggy

    Never been asked that one before!
    In principle I would have thought you would need it because it is material change (more rooms) but this would need to be confirmed with your local Duty Planning Officer. This all depends in what area you are in!



    Before you go asking that question you need to think on how high is your water table? have you talked to anyone in the trade? Are you going jack up your house on stilts whilst they build the basement? There are other ways but you talking a lot of money! What foundations does your house sit on at the moment?



    hmmm... that some depth normally i would have thought unless your having a pool 8ft would have been enough room for you to move about in!



    It would all need to be tanked for one thing! You need to speak with someone in the field. If you want a number of someone then i can put you in touch with them (depending where you are in the country)

    Depend's what flood risk area are you in? Are you ontop of a hill?
    Mmmm.... i certainly wouldn't swim in it if it flooded... remember flood water isn't pure it usually carries faeces and all kind of nasties...

    'Will the planners have to know what im using the basement for?? '

    This depends on the council officer you see. I certainly wouldn't suggest it for a room to sleep in. Maybe recreational.

    There is certainly a need for one. In london a lot of the old ones are break out points.

    I'm waiting a few planning officers comments in regards to the question on 'Do I need planning'. As soon as i hear i will get back to you!

    Best regards
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    Does your ability to answer planning questions depend entirely on your previous answer to any given question? :confused:

    If permission is needed "in principle", then why does it "depend" on geographical area? Doesn't that mean that permission isn't needed "in principle"?

    And the most important question of all:- why are you not advising that the OP speaks to his Local Authority Building Control department at this point?

    You "would have thought" it? Are you not able to state and/or make reference to specific laws and regulations? Exactly where does your 'knowledge' come from?

    Tanked, eh! Is this sound planning advice, or you also a BCO in your spare time?

    Why?

    WHY?

    WHY?

    Why does it depend on the whim of one individual?

    Why isn't there a clearly documented process to which you can refer the OP?

    Why haven't you explained anything about the basis upon which permission is granted or denied?

    Oh well, if you're able to contact a few planning officers for comments then that has to be worth waiting for. :rolleyes:

    Please remind me - how is your position any different to a bloke off the street who wanders into his local council's planning office?

    And in what way is your knowledge any more advanced than that of the same bloke after he's quickly scanned a small pamphlet in the planning office?
     
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    Dear Softus...

    On your first bold statement I was being truthful and honest. I have never dealt with new basement in old houses. So why the dressing down for honesty?

    I think you have your wires crossed here somewhere. In certain area's for instance Greenbelt land there is a certain amount normally allowed in permitted development, but it is still wise to check. I gave what i believe to be FREE advice. Therefore it is up to that person whether they take it or not...

    Oh sorry i thought i covered that one above... but silly me i'd also have thought that the price would scare Ziggy off.

    Experience...
    Although if you want i can get the specific's. But i can't see the point in wasting my time with your questions.

    A whim... obviously.

    http://www.tlbc.co.uk/main.htm
    http://www.nhbcfoundation.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=wP3jaVW3KCc=&tabid=54&mid=385&language=en-GB


    That wasn't asked...



    Oh i'm sorry I don't know enough on this one subject... let me walk away with my tale between my legs... Because i'm a bloke who deals with applications for places you go into (probably) every week, and has dealt with enough planning applications for private new builds and extensions to know pretty much what i'm talking about.
     
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    Do you regard the following as a dressing down?

    It was a straight question. Do you have a straight answer?

    And I think you're just muddying the waters. Green Belt land is subject to more restrictions, not fewer.

    Then my free advice to "that person" is that they should treat your advice with caution, because it appears to be unsound.

    I don't know why you think price comes into it. It costs nothing to consult the LABC at this stage.

    Oh, yes please.

    You've just repeated a word that I used in my question; that's no answer.

     
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    Ok scrap that idea your not much help on that. A sufficeient 'I havent go a clue about basements' would of done. Okay ill try another one. Im also planning on building a green house at the bottom of my garden. Do i need planning for my green house? How big can my green house be? Im thinking 20 meters by 15meters and two storeys.
     
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