now never knew these contained hard drives
question is "why do they"?
Matt
question is "why do they"?
Matt
dont trust photo copiers
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Well thats my ass on You tube for sure 
The place where I used to work has one that has the facility for issuing staff with personal 'pass cards'. In that way, they could keep a record of how many copies each person made.
Scary!
I wonder what else they could record. Photocopying porno-mags perhaps? Not that I ever did anything like that, of course.
Scary!
I wonder what else they could record. Photocopying porno-mags perhaps? Not that I ever did anything like that, of course.
I just cant understand why a photo copier would contain something that's not req for its function, it has to be for other purposes (spyware, intelligence gathering, legal reasons)
its a bit scary that the likes of the police, insurance companies etc are not aware either as obviously they would have wiped the drives when they offloaded them if they had known
well you would hope so!
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These new fangled digital copiers have functionality which require the image to be saved somewhere prior to printing
multi page scanning prior to multi page print
multi pages on on one sheet
two sided printing
So some storage medium is required. Also, they are almost always connected to the internet....
As far as I am aware the hard drives are not big enough to store images for any length of time unless specifically programmed to do so & even that has a limit, so there is little danger of casual use being monitor-able at a later date. Yes you are correct they are often connected nowadays, but only for remote diagnostic purposes. They cannot monitor what is being copied remotely, only the functions & episodic events of the machine (when service parts need replacing, how often the paper is jamming etc.). Hardly" new fangled" though they had these facilities when I retired 12 years ago.
Many photocopiers also double up as printers now.
In large offices you can give each print job a unique PIN and it will only print the document when you key it in.
It means you don't leave sensitive documents lying around for all to see.
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I think what they are saying is that the image gets stored on a hard drive and doesn't get properly deleted after the print is complete. So any of these easily available recovery tools will 'undelete' the file and then you can get to it. So a PIN would probably only stop the printer from printing the file, it wouldn't stop the image file being restored. Once restored you can get to it.
Most machines now have a variety of features that require a data storage device.
Secure print <- hold the document at the printer until a pin is entered
Fax <- Saves them on the machine so that you don't have to print out junk
Scan <- can be held on the machine for remote retrieval
Document Server <- hold copies of forms used often so they can be printed from the machine rather that a pc everytime
Also, large jobs require a lot of buffering. We used to send a 20,000 page job to a machine and leave it over night.
The difference in price of a hard drive compared to volatile memory is huge, so that's why they use hdd's
Secure print <- hold the document at the printer until a pin is entered
Fax <- Saves them on the machine so that you don't have to print out junk
Scan <- can be held on the machine for remote retrieval
Document Server <- hold copies of forms used often so they can be printed from the machine rather that a pc everytime
Also, large jobs require a lot of buffering. We used to send a 20,000 page job to a machine and leave it over night.
The difference in price of a hard drive compared to volatile memory is huge, so that's why they use hdd's
my copier dont work,i punched it .
your right to be concerned about the tracking and gathering of info, becuase in the future they going to use it to entrap you,
your right to be concerned about the tracking and gathering of info, becuase in the future they going to use it to entrap you,
It is all part of the big brother keeping a tab on everything we do, and whan we do, and they can find you out if there is a reason to, including every call you now make gets recorded. usually they say it is for monitoring purposes! that is a load of hollocks!
Every computer I have scrapped, has had it's hard drive removed, taken into my workshop and had several half inch hole's drilled through the platter stack, then put back in the machine.
Try recovering data from that!
likewise same treatment to floppy discs.
Wotan
Try recovering data from that!
likewise same treatment to floppy discs.
Wotan
there must be a way round those holes!
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Yeah, the FBI could recover data from that.
Why not just DBAN the HDD's? Better still once DBAN'd, they can be reused.
Why not just DBAN the HDD's? Better still once DBAN'd, they can be reused.
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MOst good photocopiers contain drives, a lot of them would not be able to provide all the functions that they do without them.
I use them a lot to scan to PDF and email it to me, a drive is needed for that for temp files. Keeping regular used documents on them is also very handy.
Makes you think twice about it though doesn't it.
I might mention it next time we change ours, don't want all those top secret documents being passed around.
Getting a 2nd hand MP's copier must be like hitting the media goldmine
I use them a lot to scan to PDF and email it to me, a drive is needed for that for temp files. Keeping regular used documents on them is also very handy.
Makes you think twice about it though doesn't it.
I might mention it next time we change ours, don't want all those top secret documents being passed around.
Getting a 2nd hand MP's copier must be like hitting the media goldmine
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