Dover...

[Deleted member 174758]

Really? Which ones?

Start with loss of trade by SMEs. Add to that loss of jobs because some firms have swiched part of their operations to other countries, particularly the Netherlands, That in due course will translate to a reduction in tax revenue to the UK authorities. Then there are labour shortages in certain sectors, e.g. car, health, agriculture, construction, etc which will all result in some shrinkage in the economy

 

[Deleted member 174758]

The EU is willing to talk, but not to negotiate. The mandate the EU negotiator has been given is so narrow it makes a nonsense of calling talks negotiation.

As opposed to people like Truss who seems to think that she can tell the French what to do? We are now a third countrty. We are no longer in the EU. We are therefore treated the same way as other third countries are. There are no special circumstances. How difficult is that to understand? Apparently, if you are a Tory it appears to be impossible to comprehend

 

[Mottie]

Start with loss of trade by SMEs. Add to that loss of jobs because some firms have swiched part of their operations to other countries, particularly the Netherlands, That in due course will translate to a reduction in tax revenue to the UK authorities. Then there are labour shortages in certain sectors, e.g. car, health, agriculture, construction, etc which will all result in some shrinkage in the economy

I was referring to the list I gave which you quoted.

 

[IT Minion]

Hold on, where did the goalposts go? Did they finally clear the Dover queues!?

 

[JBR]

Didn't you notice the use of the word delayed?

Didn't you notice what I wrote?

 

[JBR]

I did a quick search, the Harwich route takes 8 hours and cost £400. Dover had far more options on times and availability, cost £200 and took 2.5 hours. Plus it didn't send you to Holland.

Doubling the cost of your ferry and, of you're going south into Europe, taking an extra 8 hours (4 hours to drive from Holland to Calais roughly) isn't exactly a pain free loss of freedom of movement.

Who said anything about going to Calais? Holland is much nicer, as are the people!

 

[JBR]

No wonder our international standing is at an all-time low

Is it? OK. I agree our international standing is low, and always has been, in France!

 

[JBR]

Don't you think that you'd better run that past the people in NI first? I know, let's have a referendum

Exactly what I have suggested before!

 

[noseall]

That’s quite an assumption you’ve made about my kids. What do you know about them?

We know their dad doesn't care.

 

[ellal]

Which ones?

What limits and exclusions?

What limited time?

Loss of nothing. I have it and it’s cheaper than it’s ever been.


That’s not what I said. If you want to work or study AND THEY WANT YOU TO WORK OR STUDY a visa will be no problem. Same applies over here.

I am more than happy for any UK residents that want to live or work in any of those 27 EU countries to have to apply for a visa to live, work or study there AND FOR THAT COUNTRY TO DECIDE WHETHER TO ACCEPT THEM. Same the other way round for residents of any of the 27 countries in the EU (and every other country in the world) who want to live, work or study in the U.K. That’s what taking control is about.

Let's answer the ignorant troll...

Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein...

In addition to Switzerland

90 days limited cover, and cover unless extended often only now refers to 3rd party...

As for cheaper you are either a unique individual or telling porkies!

And are you telling us that no regulations apply to granting of said visas?

Such as a minimum wage and entrance restrictions?

Do you not care that the freedoms you have enjoyed for so long no longer apply to your children and their children?
(I doubt you'll answer that because you have never have done so far!)

Probably because as has been pointed out (and as you have stated), you don't care!

 

[ellal]

As for a trade deal with America, fortunately the anti-British, supposedly Irish, Biden is unlikely to be around for much longer, and even then he's probably forgotten what he said last week!

Someone it appears doesn't have a clue about US politics...

It matters not the political party of the president, the Irish majority sentiment in their houses of power has been immovable for as long as the Irish problem has existed...

You'd have more chance of getting the NRA to advocate yanks laying down weapons than get a deal done with a country that is threatening to trash the peace agreement!

 

[THFC]

Ella dear. You really must try not to be so vitriolic to other posters. You seem to periodically become more acidic for some reason.

I don't know what it is but maybe your sons can give you something for it. Just trying to be helpful

 

[Notch7]

The EU is willing to talk, but not to negotiate. The mandate the EU negotiator has been given is so narrow it makes a nonsense of calling talks negotiation.

Why should the EU negotiate?
The EU negotiated a deal in good faith with the UK.
The UK has reneged on that deal

The UK has not implemented the agreed changes like labelling, checks etc.
The EU has offered a deal to remove 80% of checks but the UK refused.


Yet you are blaming the EU

 

[Mottie]

Let's answer the ignorant troll...

Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein...

In addition to Switzerland

90 days limited cover, and cover unless extended often only now refers to 3rd party...

As for cheaper you are either a unique individual or telling porkies!

And are you telling us that no regulations apply to granting of said visas?

And let’s reply to the international thicko man of mystery.

Driving licence and green card requirements - here you are:



My ID mobile contract costs £6 per month. Piggybacks on the 'Three' network. Unlimited texts and calls, inclusive EU roaming, 4Gb data and unused data rolls over. One month contract. I'd call that pretty cheap, wouldn’t you? Perhaps you’d like to share what contract you are on if it’s not too embarrassing to say.

My EU roaming inclusive contract:



As for work permits, yes, I’d expect they'd be some regulations and requirements - they’re not going to grant a work permit for a bottle washer or burger flipper. As I said, each country will give visa's for those that they want in their country which explains why you are still in the UK.

 

[Notch7]

Ella dear. You really must try not to be so vitriolic to other posters. You seem to periodically become more acidic for some reason.

I don't know what it is but maybe your sons can give you something for it. Just trying to be helpful

Only periodically?