EICR fail

[DiyNutJob]

£60 is just the bait. The job itself is fine and done by a registered electrician, who is most likely instructed to fail minor/borderline faults. Since the electrician didn't fail anything else, I can assume the rest are in acceptable and/or borderline condition.

 

[securespark]

I wouldn't trust a single thing written on that form!

 

[ericmark]

A Pembrokeshire electrician has pleaded guilty to supplying a report claiming the electrics in a household property were satisfactory when they were not. The case was brought by Pembrokeshire County Council Trading Standards and heard by Judge Huw Rees at Merthyr Tydfil Crown Court on Monday, September 20.

I was rather surprised that a house buyer could take an electrician to court for work he did for the previous owners. It seems the new owner worked for the council and got the trading standards to take the electrician to court, and the electrician admitted guilt, so no real fight.
However it seems electricians can be taken to court for not doing their job, but as yet not seen a court case where the electrician said it failed and it should not have failed, so if unsure safe thing is to fail it. If some thing fails, then the person fixing it has to write out a minor works so takes responsibility.
However every edition of the wiring regulations say some thing like

BS 7671:2008 Requirements for Electrical Installations was issued on 1st January 2008 and is intended to come into effect on 1st July 2008. Installations designed after 30st June 2008 are to comply with BS 7671:2008.

Note design date not installation date, so if it complied when designed, it still complies.

However CENELEC harmonisation documents and other regulations may be retrospective and we may need to comply with them, so we don't have a code 4 any more, we just say if we feel the installation is dangerous or potentially dangerous, we are not required to say what regulation, or law it breaks.

However it clearly has to be an electrical fault, a home with no electrics may not be considered as habitable, but it can't fail an EICR, lack of sockets, lights, or smoke alarms may make the home uninhabitable, but does not mean it fails an EICR.

 

[Risteard]

I was rather surprised that a house buyer could take an electrician to court for work he did for the previous owners. It seems the new owner worked for the council and got the trading standards to take the electrician to court, and the electrician admitted guilt, so no real fight.
However it seems electricians can be taken to court for not doing their job, but as yet not seen a court case where the electrician said it failed and it should not have failed, so if unsure safe thing is to fail it. If some thing fails, then the person fixing it has to write out a minor works so takes responsibility.
However every edition of the wiring regulations say some thing like Note design date not installation date, so if it complied when designed, it still complies.

However CENELEC harmonisation documents and other regulations may be retrospective and we may need to comply with them, so we don't have a code 4 any more, we just say if we feel the installation is dangerous or potentially dangerous, we are not required to say what regulation, or law it breaks.

However it clearly has to be an electrical fault, a home with no electrics may not be considered as habitable, but it can't fail an EICR, lack of sockets, lights, or smoke alarms may make the home uninhabitable, but does not mean it fails an EICR.

That statement literally doesn't state that it is compliant. It doesn't even state that it's acceptable - merely that it might be.

 

[Fred Blogs]

We have sold three houses in the last couple of years and bought one and no estate agents asked for an EICR. My grandaughter has her house up for sale at present and the estate agent has not asked for an EICR.

 

[securespark]

Some agents I know ask for an EICR then offer their electrician's details. They may be in for a cut?