Feeling electricity in water

[JohnW2]

No.

In that case, I suppose it makes sense that they should "check the earthing at the MET" - since, if the earthing were unsatisfactory at the MET in a TN installation, then, give or take a short length of G/Y cable, it would probably mean that there was a problem that the DNO needed to address whilst still on site, wouldn't it?

Kind Regards, John

 

[deadshort]

Yes. The point i was making was that if there was no earth on the installation at present, at least when the meter is moved the DNO would confirm the precence of a functioning earth at the MET or not ! I did not say they would check the installation or have any responsibility for it. If it was a TT system they would not connect the supply until the customer provided the earth.

Regards,

DS

 

[JohnW2]

Yes. The point i was making was that if there was no earth on the installation at present, at least when the meter is moved the DNO would confirm the precence of a functioning earth at the MET or not !

Yes, I understand that. In turn, my point was that, if it is a TN installation that the DNO is providing, then, unless that short length of G/Y is in some way faulty (or not connected satisfactorily), then the absence of a functioning earth at the MET would be 'the DNO's problem', which they would be obliged to address - regardless of any considerations of the installation.

I must have misunderstood you - you appeared to be implying that they might "refuse to connect the supply" if there was not a satisfactory earth at the MET - but, as above, if it were TN, it would presumably be their responsibility to ensure that they were providing (continuing to provide) a satisfactory TN earth.

Kind Regards, John

 

[deadshort]

If there is no functioning earth they will not connect until an earth is installed. That's what i am saying

Regards,

DS

 

[JohnW2]

If there is no functioning earth they will not connect until an earth is installed. That's what i am saying

Fair enough - and what I am saying is that if it's a TN system that does not have a 'functioning earth', it is for them (the DNO) to fix that problem - and then connect the installation

As I said, you appeared to be implying that it was potentially the householder's problem, and that the DNO would refuse to connect until the householder had spmehow got the problem 'fixed'. That, AFAICS, would only be the case if it were a TT installation.

Have said all that, I know of at least one case in which a supply was reconnected after a meter move, despite the absence of any earth (there was no TN earth provided, nor an earth rod). I suspect others may also have experienced or witnessed that.

Kind Regards, John

 

[londoniese]

Please see the installation View media item 87051 View media item 87052 View media item 87053

 

[333rocky333]

hes doing the earth to the ground.

Do you have a picture of that

or is that picture 1

 

[deadshort]

If there is no functioning earth they will not connect until an earth is installed. That's what i am saying

Fair enough - and what I am saying is that if it's a TN system that does not have a 'functioning earth', it is for them (the DNO) to fix that problem - and then connect the installation

As I said, you appeared to be implying that it was potentially the householder's problem, and that the DNO would refuse to connect until the householder had spmehow got the problem 'fixed'. That, AFAICS, would only be the case if it were a TT installation.

Have said all that, I know of at least one case in which a supply was reconnected after a meter move, despite the absence of any earth (there was no TN earth provided, nor an earth rod). I suspect others may also have experienced or witnessed that.

Kind Regards, John

I am reassured to say i have never witnessed that, but i am in Scotland.




Regards,

DS

 

[JohnW2]

... Have said all that, I know of at least one case in which a supply was reconnected after a meter move, despite the absence of any earth (there was no TN earth provided, nor an earth rod). I suspect others may also have experienced or witnessed that.

I am reassured to say i have never witnessed that, but i am in Scotland.

Yes, that is reassuring, but I doubt whether Scotland is immune from such happenings. In the case I mentioned, it was more than a year after the meter move before it was discovered that the installation had no earth (and maybe never had had an earth).

Kind Regards, John

 

[londoniese]

hes doing the earth to the ground.

Do you have a picture of that

or is that picture 1

View media item 87054
This is the bottom of picture 1.
The gas meter pipe is burried into the ground then we have a ground cable connected to the pipe through the gas meter outside in the garden from one end and the other end of the cable is connected to the electric meter and from the electric meter ground we are connecting the water pipe.

 

[333rocky333]

Right, I think you are talking about BONDING cables.

These should link the GAS supply, and the WATER supply back to the Electric supply near the meter.

From the previous posts we all assumed you had NO earthing supplying the house but picture 2 appears to me the incoming earth is present via the electric supply cable to your premises

 

[EFLImpudence]

Just to confirm, please:

Is the bath a metal one? and Is it upstairs?

 

[londoniese]

Just to confirm, please:

Is the bath a metal one? and Is it upstairs?

The bath is plastic and upstairs

 

[deadshort]

... Have said all that, I know of at least one case in which a supply was reconnected after a meter move, despite the absence of any earth (there was no TN earth provided, nor an earth rod). I suspect others may also have experienced or witnessed that.

I am reassured to say i have never witnessed that, but i am in Scotland.

Yes, that is reassuring, but I doubt whether Scotland is immune from such happenings. In the case I mentioned, it was more than a year after the meter move before it was discovered that the installation had no earth (and maybe never had had an earth).

Kind Regards, John

Sorry i fail to see you point? The earth could have failed the day after the meter move or the day before it was last tested.

Regards,

DS

 

[JohnW2]

Just to confirm, please: Is the bath a metal one? and Is it upstairs?

The bath is plastic and upstairs

Ah! (I suppose we're all guilty of having not previously asked!)

Kind Regards, John