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Discussion in 'Appliances' started by motorbiking, 8 Jul 2019.

  1. motorbiking

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    Not sure if this is the best sub forum, but I need/want to kit out a small house that I have purchased as a holiday home. I want to provide reasonable fire protection as I plan to airbnb it occasionally and also allow friends to use, so was going for.

    smoke, fire and carbon monoxide detector top of landing and hallway
    Fire blanket in the kitchen
    fire extinguisher in the kitchen (size, type?)
    standard first aid kit

    any recommendations?
     
  2. bernardgreen

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    are useful AFTER the fire has started.

    Taking steps to prevent a fire starting are just as important. Avoid using inflamable furniture, cushions and curtains.

    People in the house will not be used to the layout and in the event of a fire they may become confused about or unable to find the evacuation route. Consider some emergency lighting for when the mains supply cuts off. ( some people in their own home get confused when the place is filling up with smoke and the lights don't work. )

    The local Fire Brigade will have a Fire Prevention Officer and most of these give free advice, some will visit and give advice specifically for the property.
     
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  3. motorbiking

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    Emergency lighting is a good shout.

    based on a bit of research you need 2 x 13A units for up to 400m2, so given its small a 2kg unit or a couple of 1kg on each floor should be sufficient. its only a 2 up, 2 down with good escape routes in any direction.
     
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    Sorry but I don't understand the reference to 2 x 13 amp.
     
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    Thank you, so it relates to the extinguishing of a "calibrated fire" Makes sense,
     
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    yes - sorry - talking fire extinguishers, not emergency lighting. The house is probably <150M2 in total. I noticed Lidl are doing a special on 1kg powder so maybe over thinking this for 2 @ £9
     
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    Bear in mind extinguishers need to be checked each year, I think, and if below standard will need to be replaced.
    Also they need to be replaced even if partially discharged.
     
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    As with many sales and promotions, there's often an ulterior motive.
    IIRC, dry powder extinguishers are being advised against (in domestic settings) as they can hamper the escapee's ability to see where they are going. Preservation of life being the whole point of the exercise.
     
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    As an ex fireman I would say you have got it about right.
    You will need a Carbon Monoxide detector placed wherever there is an open fire gas/solid fuel situation . ie central heating boiler , kitchen ( gas Cooker) Lounge ( open Fire) Also have these systems checked out and certificated

    Smoke detectors obvious, if possible wired into electrics, if not, battery type but change batteries at least twice a year, check batteries each time of re letting if possible, it is not unknown that people remove smoke detector batteries and use them for toys and portable items .
    Some type of emergency lighting placed on landing and hallway, Torches will also be useful, plug in socket Torches/emergency lighting type rechargeable ( these come on when power fails) cheap enough from Lidl , placed in other rooms.

    CO2 extinguisher, placed near main exit door, ( idea being person is near exit if the fire is out of control ) 2 Kg minimum, Larger extinguishers can be a bit heavy for some people .
    Powder extinguishers are messy , and operator cannot see what they are doing , Water extinguisher dangerous if Electrics are involved.

    Also how would the occupier call the emergency services ? people tend to rely on mobile phones these days, if the property is rural there may not be an available signal so the property may need a hard wired telephone .
     
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    Consider some way to either restrict calls to local ( free ) or 999 calls only.
     
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    thanks for the comments.

    there is a fake coal/gas fire in the lounge so will stick a co2/co detector in there also. Have already replaced fire alarm on landing, added powder extinguisher (2kg) to kitchen, blanket and CO detector by boiler.

    Emergency lighting - thinking of a LED based solar panel as there is a window on the landing and it wouldn't hurt for light to be seen in the place at night, when empty. Its only going to be used for short holiday/airbnb lets. mostly its just friends and family.

    Not much space by the front door for additional extinguisher as the door is narrow (2'3").

    telephone is an issue as, we are locking down the phone port to prevent a phone being connected.. Its right in the centre of town in a 9 house terrace, fairly densely developed due to location, so there would be plenty of people.

    worse case its two mins walk from the sea, so a bucket? :D
     
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