Installation of a LD2 Domestic Fire Alarm System

[peca27]

Much appreciated for the replies

The house is about as hassle free as they come, I'm not after an awesome well finished job.......it's a house let out to students:

Front + rear basements require a smoke detector each: I'm due to plasterboard the basements ceilings but at present the whole ground floor is open from the underside allowing ease of wiring + fixings.

Ground floor Kitchen heat detection + Lounge smoke detection: first floor boards have to be pulled up.

First Floor lobby detection: 2no. smoke detection via trunking up walls + across ceiling according to those giving me quotes.

Wires can be brought up from mains in cellar up through stair core, again according to the experts.

.....and ban-all-sheds, my guess of £500 came from a qualified electrician who took 1 full day to fit the following hard wired Securtiy Alarm and charged me £300:

- Control panel + sounder
- Keypad
- 2no. external wall mounted sound boxes
- 3no. motion detectors
- 2no. door detectors

Being crude that's 10no. hard wired fittings.......no trunking + a clean job. So how can this LD2 system I need cost nearly 3 times as much for half the number of fittings?

 

[Alarm]

Because it was done on the side, with cheap tat most probably.

You look up the items see what it comes to.

What make is it?

 

[Alarm]

Also suprised no MCP`s are specified, although students would probably break them!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Much appreciated for the replies

The house is about as hassle free as they come, I'm not after an awesome well finished job.......it's a house let out to students:

Just get some more quotes.

It doesn't matter what anybody here says, because none of the people you get in are going to reduce their price because of what people here say. What matters is what they say.

 

[RF Lighting]

I'm guessing this house is in Headingley?

All the HMO's I've put fire alarms into round there have required a proper fire alarm with a detector in each habitable room, and escape routes.A sounder in each bedroom, and MCPs on each landing all wired in fire resistant cable.

Obviously a panel is required to operate all this. Are you sure that isn't what you've been quoted for? I'd expect the sort of price youve been quoted for that sort of system.

 

[peca27]

Don't know what manufacturer the security alarm equipment is, but it was installed by a reputable local company who specialise in security. It wasn't done on the side, I have all the relevant paper work to prove it.

I know I'm being crude, but he hard wired 10no. fittings in a day for £300. If this smoke alarm system is requiring 5no. fittings only, does his equipment cost £500-£600 then?

RF, the equipment I've quoted countless times on this post is what has been asked for.........nothing more, nothing less. I have it in black + white from the LA Housing Officer, he only needs 5no. smoke + 1no. heat detectors. No MCP + no emergency lighting. So therefore I presume you now agree with me that the £935 + VAT quote I had is taking the p*ss?

 

[peca27]

This weblink seems to confirm what the Housing Officer has asked for in a Grade D LD2 system......... detection in circulation + high risk areas only. It clearly states that no MCP's and Emergency Lighting are required. It's a 3 bedroom house, not a commercial block of flats.

http://www.fire-detect.co.uk/standards-rules-smoke-heat-alarms.html

 

[ban-all-sheds]

So therefore I presume you now agree with me that the £935 + VAT quote I had is taking the p*ss?

FFS.

Get a few more quotes.

If they are all less than £935 then you'll know it was TTP.

If they come in about the same you'll know it wasn't.

Simples.

 

[peca27]

I am awaiting 2 more quotes.......I'll let you know where they come in at.

I'm posting on here to ask those in the know if I'm getting ripped off mate, countless people do it + get advice........I give pricing advice plently of times on the Architectural board in this forum........FFS

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Absolutely, and so do I.

But in the face of replies which indicate that the quote may or may not be TTP, and actual estimates which aren't a long way off, I can't see the point in continuing to try to get people here to tell you that it was TTP.

You've got the best you can - it looks on the high side, but not necessarily TTP.

 

[Alarm]

Dont compare a cheap alarm system to a L Fire system.

Your alarm probably cost £60 and his labour was £240.
You cannot even get the keypad at that at trade for the systems I fit.

 

[peca27]

This gets even better, had another Fire Alarm specialist out to quote.......a few days later he tells me you don't need an all singing + dancing system from a specialist installer. A Grade D LD2 system can be fitted by any electrician!!!!

I'm awaiting another Fire Alarm specialist quotation + have now contacted a standard electrician also

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Beware of any requirements to have the installation certified to a particular standard as that may mean that the installer has to have certain qualifications or accreditations.

Your local Housing Officer should be able to tell you.

 

[peca27]

What did I tell u guys? The world is full of jokers who will try to rip off the naive. Hence my earlier queries.

Just got a quote for £420 for a Grade D LD2 smoke alarm system, consists of 5no. smoke + 1no. heat alarms. The parts are £275 + the Electrician thinks it'll take most of a day.

Even the Housing Officer was shocked at the £850-1350 quotations I was getting.

Thanks

 

[thomo27]

What did I tell u guys? The world is full of jokers who will try to rip off the naive. Hence my earlier queries.

Just got a quote for £420 for a Grade D LD2 smoke alarm system, consists of 5no. smoke + 1no. heat alarms. The parts are £275 + the Electrician thinks it'll take most of a day.

Even the Housing Officer was shocked at the £850-1350 quotations I was getting.

Thanks

well you seem happy now however be sure to check the installers credentials.

I was going to suggest that you offer to clear rooms - lift the neccessary floorboards , get up in the attic and make sure everything is accessable as a means of seeing if this would lower the price - thats if you have time