FTTP and ethernet

[Rekusu]

What ho one and all,

My Plusnet contract is coming to an end so am moving to EE because they can provide a VOip service.

My house does not have CAT6 installed and I want the FTTH box (currently only FTTP) in the loft (where the current line is located) Intend to run a CAT6 from there to the ground floor office space so the router can be in the office. I don't want holes drilled through the wall.

I have a 50m CAT6 cable with factory fitted plugs at each end, and intend to fit this (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-F...pcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A2FODBJNNTXSR0) with a back-box. Does a regular back-box have sufficient depth to accommodate a CAT6 cable with factory fitted plug?

Thanks and toodle pip

 

[omega015]

Unlikely a 32mm back box would be sufficient especially if your premoulded cat6 cable has a any strain relief. You can get angled rj45 jacks to help but I guess that depends on the direction your coming into the box from. Might need 47mm backbox to be safe.

 

[Rekusu]

Thanks. Tend to think you are correct. May be best to get a regular CAT6 euro module and cut the final plug off the cable.

 

[Rodders53]

Does a regular back-box have sufficient depth to accommodate a CAT6 cable with factory fitted plug?

No. Especially one with a moulded shroud/strain relief.
Just use a double ended joiner, and a brush plate? Or cable straight out of the brush plate.

Note that flexi stranded cable will need the correct euro module (screw terminals?) cf solid core punch-down IDC (Krone block style) module. They also need reasonably deep back boxes... not 16mm lighting or 25mm socket... probably.

PS You'll have to be lucky to get Openreach to fit in the loft (is there safe access). A small bribe with tea and bikkies would do no harm

 

[Rekusu]

Again, thanks for the response. While I am more than able to install the CAT6 cable and fish it through the boxing were the sewer pipe drops down, I assume this is a brush plate?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-Keystone-Voltage-Mounting-Bracket/dp/B0CZS95T4R?th=1

or this

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Ethernet-Faceplate-Networking-Dual-Pass-Installation/dp/B09TZX2HJQ?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A2FODBJNNTXSR0

Is it basically a wall mounted joiner? Presumably it does not need a back-box?

 

[omega015]

I think this is what was meant by brush plate.

 

[Rekusu]

Forgot to mention that the EE guy told me that Openreach will not work in the loft unless they have had special H&S training, and not all have. But of course, it is ok to work up a ladder at 9m.

I know they don't know how my loft is but for the sake of clarity under this thread, here is a photo. From now on, I will call it the second floor! And yes, there is a great ladder to the second floor.

 

[ericmark]

I had a problem years ago with Sky, they fitted a dish, then when it had problems, said they could not work on it due to health and safety even when they put it there to start with.

 

[Rekusu]

It would be so much safer if Open Reach could work from home!

Am receiving text messages telling me that I have a provisional appointment for an OR engineer to visit to check what work is necessary before they come to connect the FTTP to FTTH, a distance for around 30m. Apparently, the provisional appointment for next week will be confirmed within the next ten days. Seems that OR have taken lessons from the NHS on how to get and appointment!

I have been somewhat unsuccessful it getting the CAT6 cable routing. It has to go about 1.2m horizontally, through the Posi-joists and next to the horizontal section of sewerage pipe. Should not be a major issue except the entire void is filled with Warmcel insulation. Have managed to get a 1.2m length of heavy duty earth wire about 1.2 / 1.3m, where I have a 100mm access hole, but damned if I can find the end.. Can only get my arm a limited distance inside, but unable to find it. And every time I try again, the result is the same; nothing. It's a case of so close but so far!

It can't go up (flooring); it can't go down (plasterboard ceiling); it can't go right (sewer pipe through the Posi-joists). if it goes towards the left, I would have thought tht when extracted, there would be a left curve to the wire, but it comes out more or less straight. it's a real b**ger!

 

[Rodders53]

You probably want some cable puller / fish tapes and strong magnets or hooks to feed something in one way and snare it from the other? Perhaps.

https://cpc.farnell.com/search?st=cable+puller

 

[Rekusu]

Magnets are a non-starter since the Posi-joists have metal webbing.