German Vaccine Deaths Report

[denso13]

so all hypothetical glad you cleared that up

It's quite simple and obvious really. Large numbers of people died of covid, once the vaccines were introduced the deaths dropped in proportion to the number of vaccines given, across the world.

Now, that is a proven fact.

 

[gas112]

It's quite simple and obvious really. Large numbers of people died of covid, once the vaccines were introduced the deaths dropped in proportion to the number of vaccines given, across the world.

Now, that is a proven fact.

now i wonder why the far far higher deaths from the far more contagious spanish flu done the same must have been down to the vaccine . oh hang on what vaccine

 

[denso13]

i wonder why the far far higher deaths from the far more contagious spanish flu done the same

You've answered you own question. Spanish flu had no vaccine. If you compare the number of deaths it absolutely confirms the efficacy of the covid vaccine. Well done.

If you compare the number of deaths of Spanish Flu against covid then it isn't far away from the lives saved paper I posted earlier. Well done again...

 

[ajohn]

From the report
Cases of (epi-)myocarditis have previously been documented after immunization against smallpox or influenza in the vaccine adverse events reporting system

Besides pneumonia, myocarditis is another manifestation reported during SARS-CoV-2-infection
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Thus, it seems possible that a molecular mimicry between the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2 and self-antigens may trigger an anti-myocytic immune response in predisposed individuals.

Our study is limited by the relatively small cohort size and inherits the bias of an endpoint analysis. The nature of our autopsy study necessitates that the data are descriptive in quality and does not allow any epidemiological conclusions in terms of incidence or risk estimation. The reported incidence of (epi-)myocarditis after vaccination is low and the risks of hospitalization and death associated with COVID-19 are stated to be greater than the recorded risk associated with COVID-19 vaccination

Finally, we cannot provide a definitive functional proof or a direct causal link between vaccination and myocarditis.

in 3 the vaccine is most likely to have been the cause of death.

But that isn't exactly what the report says is it. There are more cases where that does not apply.

 

[denso13]

There were also conspiracy theories about Spanish flu at the time as well. Some being that it was spread by an American pharmaceutical company or by biological warfare. Now where have we heard that lately I wonder?

What the COVID-19 pandemic and the 1918 flu pandemic have in common

In this Curiosities of Medical History feature, we look at the most widespread misconceptions during the 1918 influenza pandemic and what they can teach us.

www.medicalnewstoday.com

 

[denso13]

There were also conspiracy theories about Spanish flu

And swine flu. There is a pattern, the Swine Flu song,

"Don’t you know the swine flu was made by man Pharmaceutical scam […] All you parents grab your kids And shoot ‘em up just like guinea pigs, Inject your teens and your babies in the crib; And when they get paralyzed, That’s when you realize There’s no way to undo what you did. The big drug companies are makin’ a killing Collectin’ the billions and gettin’ away like a James Bond villain Cause they’re willin’ to do almost anything Just to make money with the flu vaccine."

Oh dear...

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/272310471_The_Big_Pharma_conspiracy_theory

 

[denso13]

I have read that the UK permanently stocks a quantaty aimed at one flue strain and this is the one. A small stock.

Not in 1918.

 

[gas112]

You've answered you own question. Spanish flu had no vaccine. If you compare the number of deaths it absolutely confirms the efficacy of the covid vaccine. Well done.

If you compare the number of deaths of Spanish Flu against covid then it isn't far away from the lives saved paper I posted earlier. Well done again...

Rubbish deleted. Mod

 

[ajohn]

Nonsense.

Not entirely. Too much leads to liver failure and it is why the number you can buy off the shelf is limited. Annoyingly the same was applied to aspirin which actually while ancient is rather effective in respect to what it is intended to do.

 

[noseall]

Not entirely. Too much leads to liver failure

Too much water will kill you. It still does not mean paracetamol is... "one of the deadliest drugs available". Utter nonsense.

 

[denso13]

absolute nonsense are you forgetting there was no vaccine for a year.

No, different measures helped this time.

the spanish flu was absolutely rampant in the first wave

Nah, prove it. And don't quote government figures or the MSM. They tell lies.

Spanish flu was spread by big pharma (so the conspiracy theories claimed at the time). It isn't even Spanish for goodness sake...

 

[ajohn]

absolute nonsense are you forgetting there was no vaccine for a year.

No nonsense from you. All rates dropped off as the covid vaccines were used. That and various other factors kept covid deaths down to 6.5m comparing with the way it's counted on spanish flu.

 

[denso13]

trying to divert yet again your gullibility shows no bounds

Hey, the conspiracy nutjobs even believe a cancer cure is being hidden from us. Once a numpty always a numpty...

Could Somebody Be Hiding The Cure For Cancer? Our Experts Explain Why Not

A myth that we often hear is that there’s already a cure for cancer, but it’s being hidden. Our experts explain why this isn't the case.

www.worldwidecancerresearch.org

 

[noseall]

Of course it was the vaccine you keep believing it .

The alternative is to believe you and your fellow deniers and your dodgy dredged-up wacky vids.

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[denso13]

Of course it was the vaccine you keep believing it .

It has been proved.

Here is what you could do, rather than writing nonsense on a DIY forum,

The Lancet: journey of a paper

Publishing your work in a <cite>Lancet</cite> journal means partnering with an editorially independent family of journals committed to improving lives, increasing the social impact of science, and maintaining the highest standards of medical science. Each submission is treated individually, but...

www.thelancet.com

Put you thoughts to the test. There is a nobel prize waiting.