Ginger men who now identifies as a woman.

[King Billy]

Thanks for the bump, Pete.

I've always wanted to be an author, but I'm going to start small. Nothing like the inspirational and very successful HP series by J K Rowling for me, not yet.

This modernised fairy tale is in recognition of all the TERFs.

I've been inspired, by JohnD and Ivor Windybottom to modernise the old fairy tale of Little Red Riding Hood and the big bad scary Wolf. You all know the story, so I'll skip to the bit where Little Red Riding Hood (LRRH) has settled herself in the chair by Granny's bed. Of course, in the bed is not Granny, but a wolf, and in my version a wolf pretending to be transgender, (TGW).

LRRH: My what big eyes you have, Granny.
TGW: All the better to see you with, my dear.
LRRH: My what big teeth you have, Granny
TGW: All the better to eat you with,, my dear.
LRRH: My what big hands you have, Granny.
TGW: All the better to spank you with, my dear. Because I'm not really your granny, nor a wolf, nor a transgender wolf. I'm really a male sex criminal pretending to be transgender wolf, disguised as your Granny to gain access to your Granny's bedroom.

And with that LRRH jumped up off her seat and ran out of the door into the forest.
Granny, the wolf, the transgender wolf, the male sex criminal leapt out of bed to chase her.
Unfortunately Granny's bloomers was much too big for the slender male sex criminal, disguised as a transgender wolf, disguised as Granny, and her bloomers kept falling down round the male sex criminal's ankles and tripping him up.
Granny's nightgown was also much to loose for the male sex criminal, so not only was it acting like a parachute slowing him down, it was also wrapping itself around his legs and causing him to stumble.
Granny's night cap was far too loose for his head, so it kept slipping down over his eyes, and he kept bumping into trees.
Granny's bed slippers were much too flimsy for the forest floor, so the male sex criminal was as good as running blindly in bare feet.
So LRRH was able to get clean away, and the male sex criminal was left stumbling around in the forest, falling over and bumping into trees.
A quick call to the police on LRRH's brother's mobile made out of bits of wire, sellotape and pieces of cardboard and the male sex criminal was easily caught.


There is a moral to this story: don't try to rewrite fairy stories and perpetuate myths with your own bigoted ignorance of medical science and biology. Otherwise you'll be mistaken for TERFs.

I suspect those who inspired me to write my version of that old fairy story, might want some financial reward for their contribution to the story.
I very much doubt that I will accede to their request,
They're welcome to apply to my accountant at the Dry Cleaners, in Station Road, North Chingford, London.
It's unlikely that they'll get any response because my accountant manages my affairs via a couple of young digital nomads living the high life in places like Bali, etc.

 

[Odds]

In the hundreds of thousands. More than those who identify as Cornish.
But bigots will be bigots.


Especially when those typical bigots don't know the difference between transvestites, transexuals and panto dames.


This illustrates perfectly your understanding of intersex, if you think that intersex people have big hands.

Have you considered the rroot cause of their bigotry?

Homophobia is usually the word used to describe it but consider for a moment what that really means...if you have arachnophobia you'd be afraid of spiders; if you have coulrophobia you're afraid of clowns or if you have arabophobia, then you're probably a member of 'reform'.

Are people like JohnD, mottie and everyone who denies the presence of a rainbow spectrum in human sexuality really afraid of finding it within themselves? Do they struggle with this fear on a daily basis or, worse, against a perceived streak within themselves?

 

[King Billy]

Have you considered the rroot cause of their bigotry?

...

Yes, and I think it might be their religion: Catholicism which fanatically refuses to recognise sex as non binary.
As I mentioned to Noseall recently, when you destroy their fanatical belief in sex being binary, their argument against transgenders also disintegrates.
I won't respond to your comments about sexuality because, TBH, I don't think they're particularly relevant.

Very simply, because while people refuse to accept the existence and prevalence of intersex babies and people, they can continue to conflate genuine transgenders with pervert criminals, as you have just done.
Once they accept that existence and prevalence of intersex babies and people, their religiously inspired denial of genuine transgenders simply disintegrates. They are obliged to recognise the existence of transgenders, and again their denial simply disintegrates.
So they continue to deny the existence and prevalence of intersex babies and people, so they can continue to deny the existence of transgenders, and the fall back on the conflation with: "a man putting on a frock and some lippy".

Does it mean that all TERFs are Catholics, or all Catholics are TERFs?
I don't the answer but TERF stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
I don't think that Catholics are naturally radical feminists. But devout Catholics may be Trans Exclusionary.

"Trans-exclusionary" refers to ideologies, movements, or individuals that exclude transgender people—specifically trans women—from women's spaces, rights, and feminist discourse. Often associated with "gender-critical" feminism or the acronym TERF (Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist), this view holds that gender is biological, binary, and fixed at birth

 

[Highway Man]

Thanks for the bump, Pete.

I've always wanted to be an author, but I'm going to start small. Nothing like the inspirational and very successful HP series by J K Rowling for me, not yet.

This modernised fairy tale is in recognition of all the TERFs.

I've been inspired, by JohnD and Ivor Windybottom to modernise the old fairy tale of Little Red Riding Hood and the big bad scary Wolf. You all know the story, so I'll skip to the bit where Little Red Riding Hood (LRRH) has settled herself in the chair by Granny's bed. Of course, in the bed is not Granny, but a wolf, and in my version a wolf pretending to be transgender, (TGW).

LRRH: My what big eyes you have, Granny.
TGW: All the better to see you with, my dear.
LRRH: My what big teeth you have, Granny
TGW: All the better to eat you with,, my dear.
LRRH: My what big hands you have, Granny.
TGW: All the better to spank you with, my dear. Because I'm not really your granny, nor a wolf, nor a transgender wolf. I'm really a male sex criminal pretending to be transgender wolf, disguised as your Granny to gain access to your Granny's bedroom.

And with that LRRH jumped up off her seat and ran out of the door into the forest.
Granny, the wolf, the transgender wolf, the male sex criminal leapt out of bed to chase her.
Unfortunately Granny's bloomers was much too big for the slender male sex criminal, disguised as a transgender wolf, disguised as Granny, and her bloomers kept falling down round the male sex criminal's ankles and tripping him up.
Granny's nightgown was also much to loose for the male sex criminal, so not only was it acting like a parachute slowing him down, it was also wrapping itself around his legs and causing him to stumble.
Granny's night cap was far too loose for his head, so it kept slipping down over his eyes, and he kept bumping into trees.
Granny's bed slippers were much too flimsy for the forest floor, so the male sex criminal was as good as running blindly in bare feet.
So LRRH was able to get clean away, and the male sex criminal was left stumbling around in the forest, falling over and bumping into trees.
A quick call to the police on LRRH's brother's mobile made out of bits of wire, sellotape and pieces of cardboard and the male sex criminal was easily caught.


There is a moral to this story: don't try to rewrite fairy stories and perpetuate myths with your own bigoted ignorance of medical science and biology. Otherwise you'll be mistaken for TERFs.

I suspect those who inspired me to write my version of that old fairy story, might want some financial reward for their contribution to the story.
I very much doubt that I will accede to their request,
They're welcome to apply to my accountant at the Dry Cleaners, in Station Road, North Chingford, London.
It's unlikely that they'll get any response because my accountant manages my affairs via a couple of young digital nomads living the high life in places like Bali, etc.

Yep, crazy alright...

 

[pete01]

Yep, crazy alright...

Yep absolutely nuts....or no nuts, whatever.

 

[Odds]

Yes, and I think it might be their religion: Catholicism which fanatically refuses to recognise sex as non binary.
As I mentioned to Noseall recently, when you destroy their fanatical belief in sex being binary, their argument against transgenders also disintegrates.



Does it mean that all TERFs are Catholics, or all Catholics are TERFs?
I don't the answer but TERF stands for Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist.
I don't think that Catholics are naturally radical feminists. But devout Catholics may be Trans Exclusionary.

Christians are not encouraged to recognise anything which deviates from their Biblical interpretation of what constitutes 'normality'.

The issue isn't necessarily a religious matter, in any case. The Papal proclamation is reserved for true believers in Christ, who're become a small but strident voice on personal concerns in an increasingly secular society. It should be a debate concerning parliament and a regulatory body to adjudicate individual claims with independent opinion on people struggling with this thorny issue.

 

[King Billy]

Christians are not encouraged to recognise anything which deviates from their Biblical interpretation of what constitutes 'normality'.

Christians, i.e. C of E have some transgender priests.

A quick summary of the world's major religions indicate that most accept that some people are transgender, with the exception of Catholicism.
Catholicism rejects the idea of non-binary or transgenders outright, and refuse to acknowledge their existence.
The Abrahamic religions (Judaism and Islam) are more nuanced, some accepting intersex and transgenders, while others accept them reservedly.
But some of the more extreme sects do not accept their existence.
The Christian religions, in the main, accept transgenders, but fail to mention intersex. The C of E has some transgender priests.
There are exception for some of the more extreme Christian religions who refuse to accept intersex or transgenders.
Other religions such as the Australian Aboriginal, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Neopagan, and Japanese-Ryukyuan religions accept transgenders.

Of the Christian beliefs there are some extreme fringe sects that refuse to acknowledge the existence of intersex babies and people.
Catholicism is the main belief that refuse to accept the existence of intersex babies. And they can hardly be described as a fringe sect.

The issue isn't necessarily a religious matter, in any case. The Papal proclamation is reserved for true believers in Christ, who're become a small but strident voice on personal concerns in an increasingly secular society.

I agree that it isn't only a religious matter. It can be an Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminism matter

But the Radical Feminists are basically striving to overturn the patriarchal society to a matriarchal society. They believe that to achieve that they must deny the existence of transgender people, especially transwomen, hence their trans exclusionary stance. They must achieve equality by putting themselves higher than others, which wouldn't be equality.

It should be a debate concerning parliament and a regulatory body to adjudicate individual claims with independent opinion on people struggling with this thorny issue.

I agree, the 1837 Act needs to be re-assessed in the light of modern medical science and modern scientific biological knowledge to see if society should recognise intersex, or a third gender, or a non-gender, all of which are recognised in other societies.
Certainly at the very least, in times of doubt, the assigning of the sex label should be left until the person is older, usually puberty, and can make their own decision.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Have you considered the rroot cause of their bigotry?

Homophobia is usually the word used to describe it but consider for a moment what that really means...if you have arachnophobia you'd be afraid of spiders; if you have coulrophobia you're afraid of clowns or if you have arabophobia, then you're probably a member of 'reform'.

Are people like JohnD, mottie and everyone who denies the presence of a rainbow spectrum in human sexuality really afraid of finding it within themselves? Do they struggle with this fear on a daily basis or, worse, against a perceived streak within themselves?

Love the idea that anyone who criticises anything must be that thing, like there's some deep attempt to slay an inner devil. Sounds like a nice theory but it's utterly unfounded psychobabble cobblers.

By that logic, any judge who locks up a murderer must do a bit of murdering in private.

 

[King Billy]

Love the idea that anyone who criticises anything must be that thing, like there's some deep attempt to slay an inner devil. Sounds like a nice theory but it's utterly unfounded psychobabble cobblers.

By that logic, any judge who locks up a murderer must do a bit of murdering in private.

Hardly a fair comparison.
Assuming it was a jury trial, the jury pronounced guilt, not the judge. The judge merely applied the sentence according to sentencing guidelines as set out by the Sentencing Council.

But I do agree that sexuality is separate and irrelevant, and even unconnected, to intersex and transgenders.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Are you for real?!?!? I really don't know if you're just trying to stir the wasps nest. Funny though.

The judge always sentences, therefore does the locking up, so I out-pedant your pedantry.

 

[Odds]

Love the idea that anyone who criticises anything must be that thing, like there's some deep attempt to slay an inner devil. Sounds like a nice theory but it's utterly unfounded psychobabble cobblers.

By that logic, any judge who locks up a murderer must do a bit of murdering in private.

You don't think folk with homophobia fear gay people?