Going EV

[Murdochcat]

Couple of things to look at. Government bringing in a 3p per mile tax on electric in 2027 = £150 per 5000m. Also get some insurance quotes as insurance company's have been hit hard on some claims. Also the cost of a service over 5 years.
One last thing is fast electric charging is around the same price as petrol.

3p per mile is nothing compared to the fuel duty and VAT you pay on petrol or diesel

 

[yorksbuilder]

Friend has Tesla Model 3, battery went on it 3 months ago (some cells died), Tesla replaced the battery under warranty. 3 weeks ago, same thing happened! They are replacing the battery again but wont get the car back to him until September. Just saying. Oh and also, you'll look like youre driving around in a streamlined microwave, that's how much personality Teslas have

 

[Munroast]

my insurance went up from something like 140 to 460, just shows how dangerous they are
saved £373 on fuel over first 2665 miles, so 4 months to get the insurance hike back (and it hasn't burst into flames yet)
can't see any financial benefit in owning one, but if you want that warm glowing feeling about saving the planet.....

Love driving it though, one pedal driving, its like a kids go cart.

 

[Avocet]

Still far less than the equivalent fuel duty, and that fuel duty will be increasing in the future.


Zero, unless someone insisted on taking the car to the main stealers every six months, in which case they will get done over, just as they would with any other car taken to such places.


That can be true for occasional ad-hoc charging at whatever the nearest location is, but there are monthly plans to make it significantly cheaper if using rapid charging often, and if driving a Tesla it's significantly less at their facilities.

To be fair, I was pleasantly surprised at the service cost from a BMW main stealer. Got change out of £300 (and that's every other year). On the other hand, that's a bloody expensive pollen filter and brake fluid change!

 

[Charlie George]

Still far less than the equivalent fuel duty, and that fuel duty will be increasing in the future.


Zero, unless someone insisted on taking the car to the main stealers every six months, in which case they will get done over, just as they would with any other car taken to such places.


That can be true for occasional ad-hoc charging at whatever the nearest location is, but there are monthly plans to make it significantly cheaper if using rapid charging often, and if driving a Tesla it's significantly less at their facilities.

Is the warranty still valid if you don't have a recommended service history?

 

[Avocet]

Is the warranty still valid if you don't have a recommended service history?

As far as I'm aware, they can't withhold the warranty as long as the vehicle has been serviced by a competent outfit, according to the manufacturer's service schedule. I think that applies to all cars - EV or ICE. Quite how "competent" is decided, would be a matter for the courts. I think that's why some manufacturers insist on it being at least a VAT-registered garage, so that it stops your mate down the pub who "knows a bit about motors" from doing it. Obviously, if it's been done by a franchised dealer, the manufacturer has no argument. anything less, and it starts to give him a bit of wriggle room.

With no service history at all, then yes, I think the manufacturer could probably wriggle out of his warranty obligations. I think you'd need deep pockets to pay lawyers to argue otherwise - probably deeper than they'd have had to be if you'd just paid a main dealer to service it in the first place!

 

[Munroast]

As far as I'm aware, they can't withhold the warranty as long as the vehicle has been serviced by a competent outfit, according to the manufacturer's service schedule. I think that applies to all cars - EV or ICE. Quite how "competent" is decided, would be a matter for the courts. I think that's why some manufacturers insist on it being at least a VAT-registered garage, so that it stops your mate down the pub who "knows a bit about motors" from doing it. Obviously, if it's been done by a franchised dealer, the manufacturer has no argument. anything less, and it starts to give him a bit of wriggle room.

With no service history at all, then yes, I think the manufacturer could probably wriggle out of his warranty obligations. I think you'd need deep pockets to pay lawyers to argue otherwise - probably deeper than they'd have had to be if you'd just paid a main dealer to service it in the first place!

Toyota gets round with promising 10 years warranty - catch it has to be serviced by Toyota and its not cheap - £400 ish every second year and 200ish for a battery check for the in between years these 10 year warranties come with hidden costs !

 

[Avocet]

Toyota gets round with promising 10 years warranty - catch it has to be serviced by Toyota and its not cheap - £400 ish every second year and 200ish for a battery check for the in between years these 10 year warranties come with hidden costs !

Yeah, Toyota are being a bit cute there! The Block Exemption regulations oblige them to provide the standard warranty, (3 years, 60,000 miles) regardless of who services it (subject to the conditions in Post#26), but extended warranties are not covered by those regulations. Completely separate to those, is the 8 year / 100,000 mile battery warranty, which they are obliged to provide under the Vehicle Emissions Trading Scheme Order 2023 - (again, regardless of who services it).

To be honest, it's not their vehicle anyway, it's a Stellantis product, variously badged as the Peugeot e-Partner, the Citroen e-Berlingo, the Vauxhall Combo electric and the Fiat e-Doblo (and of course, the electric Toyota Proace City).

The battery check is particularly annoying because it self-checks its battery anyway and reports it back to the factory via the SIM card in the vehicle. They'll know your battery is poorly before you do!

 

[Munroast]

Couple of things to look at. Government bringing in a 3p per mile tax on electric in 2027 = £150 per 5000m. Also get some insurance quotes as insurance company's have been hit hard on some claims. Also the cost of a service over 5 years.
One last thing is fast electric charging is around the same price as petrol.

vans and commercial vehicles to be exempt ?

The UK government's official consultation response for the Electric Vehicle Excise Duty (eVED) confirms that electric vans, buses, coaches, and heavy goods vehicles (HGVs) will be completely out of scope and excluded from the new pay-per-mile scheme when it launches in April 2028. The government stated that the transition to electric power for these commercial and heavy vehicle classes is still less advanced than it is for standard passenger cars

phew ! for once I get to dodge a bullet