GP's

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43% of GPs were paid more than £100,000 a year in 2004, compared with 23% the previous year, making them the best paid in Europe.
........Dr Des Spence, a Glasgow GP, said the extra money was counterproductive. 'My wage has doubled in the past 10 years,' he said. 'Giving GPs this amount of money may even make staffing resources worse, because GPs have no need to do extra work out of hours.
'This increase in money has not been translated into improvements in patient care.'
NHS expenditure on doctors has doubled in the past five years. In 1999 the NHS spent £3 billion on their pay, increasing to £6 billion in 2004. The pay rise has not been matched by any significant increases in productivity.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) has calculated that between 1997 and 2003 doctors' productivity fell by an average of about 0.75%.

The government argues the ONS figures do not take into account the quality of care. Sir Nigel Crisp, the NHS chief executive, said deaths from heart disease and cancer were continuing to fall as hospital services improved.

The BMA said the 4.5% pay claim for next year (2006) is necessary to ensure consultants are retained in the NHS. Dr Paul Miller, chairman of the BMA's consultants' committee, said: ';Almost eight out of 10 consultants say they plan to retire early....'

I should think they were gonna retire early .. before anyone notices I reckon.
Half pay plus tax free 3 times that, lump sum .. all nicely index linked.

£94k average pay for consultants, you do not languish in the lower echelons most are at, or near the top scale.

So you pays good money for work, then pays good dosh for sfa .. Big salaries should demand private pension schemes.
Never mind, they are closing your local hospitals to pay for this lot.

The BMA is one of the most powerful unions in the country .. Never mind the posh name, look beyond the veneer, don't you all love unions?

 

[pickles]

my doctor is great he explains everything and even sends info about any ailments you may have or drugs your on, that he's lifted off the www, too late cos I'll have already done that but its the thought that counts, their not over paid are they? £50,000 ? i would guess

Anywhere between 100k- 200k following recent changes

personally I can't make my mind up whether that is fair/unfair. When they screw up they carry a lot of responsibility but they do seem to send most stuff on to Hospital medics if its not chronic stuff or simple.

The whole thing seems a bit out of step with the trend nowadays for there to be some kind of choice as to where you go. A lot of people like their GP but if they don't they are basically stuffed

 

[dabaldie]

A lot of people like their GP but if they don't they are basically stuffed

can always change your GP
i've done it twice now, all you need is a reason, and i just cited family issues, but then both my parents are nurses at the local hospital (now THATS underpaid), and know most of the GP's and consultants and always falling out.!!!

 

[pickles]

A lot of people like their GP but if they don't they are basically stuffed

can always change your GP
i've done it twice now, all you need is a reason, and i just cited family issues, but then both my parents are nurses at the local hospital (now THATS underpaid), and know most of the GP's and consultants and always falling out.!!!

Nurses are criminally underpaid and always have been. They have far more to do with whether you actually get better than most people realise. if a Gp's worth 100k then a nurse certainly is

Interesting to see you have changed twice. A lot of gp's in urban areas have closed their lists

 

[dabaldie]

down 'ere in the south west we seem to have more elderly people than anywhere else in the country. Prob explains why there are loads of GP's down here... but dont get me on dentists... i cannot find a NHS dentist here at all.. let alone one with free spaces..
but no dentists and loads of GPs figures for the old population.. .they always catch cold and need GP's... but have no teeth so no need for dentists.
wonder what the average age is for each county in england.. must be able to get that from somewhere?

 

[Softus]

You dont pay for your current GP so why winge.

I can be sure beyond a reasonable doubt that some of my taxes are paying my GP's salary. I feel that this gives me the right to constructively criticise, but if it doesn't, then being a registered patient at his practise certainly does, because they have asked for feedback.

As for overpaid (ok they are a form of triage), you try being one. 6 years of med school, followed by 3 years of training followed by being on call every third night.
The GP's arent the over paid ones.. its the incompetent hospital managers and beurocracy that is over paid.

I wholeheartedly agree. GPs are not a triage measure, they are consultants, albeit not specialist ones.

 

[joe-90]

If you want to hear someone slag off GPs - talk to a hospital consultant.


joe

 

[Softus]

Reminds me of that joke:

I say, I say, I say - what's the difference between God and a Hospital Consultant?
- Ai doan't knoa - what is the difference between God and a Hospital Consultant?












God doesn't think that he's a Hospital Consultant.

 

[Moz]

seeing my GP on monday regarding a rash on my co......lol

ermm .....my Gps great

 

[joe-90]

coccyx?

 

[Softus]

coccyx?

No thanks - I've already had my fill today.

 

[nstreet]

GPs are an overpaid triage service.

joe

absolutely right

GP's in our area get approx £2k per week, thats more than most high skilled workers will get in a month, criminal.

 

[Richardp]

seeing my GP on monday regarding a rash on my co......lol

ermm .....my Gps great

Copacabana ?


Her name was Lola

 

[kendor]

Didn't Dr Shipman work in boots?

No Bootle

No you're absolutely right i've just checked up on the internet and found out he was into winkle-pickers!