I,V HAD TO CHANGE THE WIRE ON MY SHOWER. NOW I HAVE A CEILING SWITCH AND DONT NO WHAT THE LOAD OR THE SUPPLY IS LOL......... WHERE DO I PUT THE WIRES THAT COMES FROM THE FUSE BOX..??? LOAD OR SUPLY??? PLEASE HELP LOL I WANT A POWER SHOWER LOL STARTING TO SMELL A LITTLE[/img]
help with a 50amp ceiling switch please
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I'm not going to answer you yet, as if you dont know you may have made other mistakes. so firstly what have you changed the wire from? and to? and why?
(dont worry dispite the extra questions answers come on here quicker than the average forum, quite rapid actually)
I'm not going to answer you yet, as if you dont know you may have made other mistakes. so firstly what have you changed the wire from? and to? and why?
(dont worry dispite the extra questions answers come on here quicker than the average forum, quite rapid actually)
I would expect it is alike for like type replacement, so the biggest pointer is to make sure the terminals are tight......very tight.
i had to change the cable cos i got a better shower.. 10.5 .. i only had a 6 mm cable suplying the old shower. and when i put the new shower in, it kept burning out the ceiling switch (twice lol).... i work on site so i asked a sparky, he said i needed a 10mm cable in..... i,v put it in, and wired it up to the fuse box , exactly the same way the old wire came out. then i wired the shower... now i,m left with 6 wires hanging from the ceiling, not sure what to do next as the back off the switch says load and suply.......i didnt wanna dammage nothing. so i thought i would get some advice...and if i wired it up wrong ould i dammage the switch?? or would it just trip out??......i wanted to no were to put the wires from the fuse box?? load or supply??? have i dun it correct???? lol i,m a duct fitter/sheetmetal worker not a sparky........do i need a rcd?? lol dont even no what it is..??.... thanks for the fast replyszzz... you lot are realy on the ball!!!!! sorry bout the caps....
The cable from the fuse box connects to the supply side of the switch, the cable to the shower connects to the load side. The earth wires both need connected to the earth terminal (need sleeved). You should have a 45A MCB/fuse and a minimum 45A rated switch. An RCD (Residual Current Device - same concept as the plug in powerbreaker but a 45A minimum current carrying capacity, 30mA trip hard wired version) is a good idea too. Is your main & suppplementary bonding up to scratch - (maybe better getting your spark mate to advise on this)? As you are changing the cable sizes in a special location this work is notifiable to your local area building control under part p of the building regs.
Spark123 said:
you have totally lost me there............ a spark was in about 6 months ago and change the fuse box..... so everything should be up to date there........ maybe i should just get a sparky in ?? ..... thought it was an easy job..... i,ll try what you said tommorow.. and i,ll let you no if it solved the problem.....thanks for the fast reply
andyBenso said:
well that was pretty stupid. your lucky the switch burned out twice and not the cable/house.
incase your not fully aware, electricity is dangerous. and since you lack the knowledge to understand the difference between supply and load (the shower obviously aint gonna be the supply) then you should just go get your yellow pages and start phoning someone to come do the work properly. and check all your electrics, if you have done any work to them.
and have you notified LABC about re-wiring your shower?
and i assume you didnt go thru building regs when you changed the shower. either that, or you did and the fat *******s from LABC had a quick look (not actually knowing what to look) and said its safe.... (altho you might have changed it before the building regs. altho i spose this is the reason we now need them
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andyBenso said:Spark123 said:
you have totally lost me there............ a spark was in about 6 months ago and change the fuse box..... so everything should be up to date there........ maybe i should just get a sparky in ?? ..... thought it was an easy job..... i,ll try what you said tommorow.. and i,ll let you no if it solved the problem.....thanks for the fast reply
So what you need to do is look at the EIC he gave you to see whether there is any supplementary bonding in the bathroom. It will tell you on the form he filled in.
Im back sorry for the delay! and sorry to not answer your question the first time but wanted to make sure everything else was all good.andyBenso said:
I think all has been answered, mostly supply=fusebox side, load =shower side. you have (now) correctly put a more suitiable cable on. I personally would say an RCD on a shower is essential, particulary given that is something went wrong you wouldnt want it on your conscience! -but you say you have had work done on your fusebox so there may be one there! -could you post a picture? (put the picture on photobox.com (or similar) then post the link)
and yes the work you have done (new shower +cable) should be notified according to part p, but its up to you what you do there, but you need to notify before you start, do the work before dec 2004, get a registered spark to do it, or just ignore it.
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I'm still worried that the guy who did the board change did not leave a cert...
securespark said:
well the council put the new fuse box in,, so that has got to be up to date.. not sure if there is a cert with it... its probs tucked in the back of the board.. i wont touch it till i get my camera back (tommorow).... i,ll take pics of all the work that i have dun and put them online....all help is appreciated.....i,,ll take pics of the shower and the fuse box..
andy
no offence meant with this pal but get a spark in to do the job mate.
as you say your not an electrician. its crucial you get this job done correctly, electricity and water dont mix and if anything does go wrong you need to know that the correct protection is in place to give the best chance of saving your ass....... or that of your family.
make sure you get a spark registered to a scheme such as NICEIC and that he fills in the correct installation forms for the job.
ps, not sure i read it in your posts but did you update the cable from the switch to shower to 10mm twin and earth aswell?
no offence meant with this pal but get a spark in to do the job mate.
as you say your not an electrician. its crucial you get this job done correctly, electricity and water dont mix and if anything does go wrong you need to know that the correct protection is in place to give the best chance of saving your ass....... or that of your family.
make sure you get a spark registered to a scheme such as NICEIC and that he fills in the correct installation forms for the job.
ps, not sure i read it in your posts but did you update the cable from the switch to shower to 10mm twin and earth aswell?
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