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Hikvision security flaws

Discussion in 'Alarms, CCTV & Telephones' started by indus, 30 Oct 2018.

  1. indus

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    Time and time again Hikvision is recommended across many forums for general domestic use. As I understand it they are now global leaders by market share.

    Since I'm in the market for a new set up I've been googling away and have come across the backdoor issue with HiKV IP cameras. The ability to acquire admin privileges has been described as requiring low skill.

    What I can't figure out from google is whether this issue has been truly solved or fudged. If the latter then why does everybody and their dog recommend them?

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    The biggest issue, is having the potential to disconnect the external Network cable and attach a rogue device to the network, they could for example piggy back a wifi extender and get 'free wifi', if the network is not protected. The backdoor hack has been fixed by updating the firmware.
     
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    And is RING any less secure ?
    And they say coax systems are dead .... at least there is only one entry in a coax based system ....
     
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    As far as I’m aware the issue has been fixed by firmware updates.

    The last few systems I have installed have been Hikvision Turbo 4 DVR with 5MP cameras.
    I have run cat5e cable instead of coax and used baluns at each end, the cat5e cable takes the power as well as video and works very well.

    Cat5e easier to route than coax plus future proofs cabling as much as possible at the moment.
     
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    Thanks, glad to hear that the issue has been resolved. I have coax cable already in place and routing ethernet cable now would be very disruptive and costly.

    I'm assuming that a coax based system that does use network/internet for accessing functions remotely is more secure from hacking than an IP system, or have I misunderstood?

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    Hikvision PoC systems are excellent.

    I think the security issues were related to the network cable from the Dvr/Nvr to the router. I’ve not heard of any issues regarding Hikvision equipment for 12+ months now. Not sure there were ever any serious concerns to be honest and most problems being caused by the default passwords still being used. There are no default passwords anymore so no real issue.
     
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    You can still access a coax based system for remote functions over the internet by connecting the DVR to the internet.

    I had a similar discussion on here with a member can’t remember the name who said how unsecure everything is. While I don’t disagree if someone is determined enough and has the skills anything can be hacked or compromised.

    My system views my drive, my garden I don’t really see anyone wanting to waste their time to hack my hikvision setup so I do not lose any sleep thinking about it.

    If you are really worried then have an isolated setup meaning no connection to the outside world. :rolleyes:
     
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    Thanks.

    Would you be able to recommend the best hikv camera for me? Domestic application, coax cable already in place, highest camera is located at eaves level.

    Best hikv camera regardless of price?

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    Fair enough. Any of my on line activity could be hacked, and we know that anything can be hacked by those with the right skills.

    However the hikv was described as being accessible by those with low skills and that is worrying. Like you I doubt a feed of my drive, garden etc is that exciting...however if you were planning to burgle me it might be helpful if you could access all my feeds.
    And if it only requires low skills to do so then it becomes a real possibility that a burglar would do so.
     
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    I don't trust Hikvision to be honest, in that its partly owned by the chinese government. I have a feeling that as soon as you plug one of the dvrs/nvrs into a network, there is no doubt they can get access to your cameras and recordings. But wouldn't be surprised if it also turns into a sort of remote pc giving access to your network.

    Having said that I do install them and it wouldn't really bother me using one myself at home, I have a Dahua system myself which is probably the same. But if I had a network with sensitive information on, such a product designs and so on I would think twice before just plugging it on the network.

    But I just might be being some sort of conspiracy theory nutjob talking crap.
     
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    Probably ...
     
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    You need to decided what you want from the camera. There is never a clear cut answer regarding cctv imo.

    What is most important, day or night image?
    What distance of night image required?

    The best image and night vision are normally the ptz cameras but in my opinion ptz cameras should be used to supplement fixed cameras. It’s all about getting the balance between requirmet vs budget. You need to think what you want to achieve from each camera.
     
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    Someone plans to burgle you if you are rich and have lots of cool expensive stuff to rob. If you do not fit the catergory then it is opurtunists who target the easy houses with little or no security.

    If I was rich and had cool stuff to rob I would have 24hr monitoried CCTV.
     
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    Thanks, I understand that it depends what I need from a camera so here is a recap

    Domestic residential application so the appropriate night/day performance in line with this.

    In terms of budget I'm happy to pay for the best camera from the HikV range as they seem quite reasonably priced.

    Your point about PTZ is interesting but I must say I don't think I've seen PTZ in most residential settings.

    Cheers
     
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    That’s the problem,every situation is different. You’d probably be better off with the cheapest Hik camera then install external lighting to improve night vision.

    Agreed. You do see one now and again but a ptz could look daft/overkill in certain situations.

    There are no clear answers when selecting an external camera in my option.
     
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