How much do you trust an indicator?

[Highway Man]

Oh and I had to show you a picture of your own van to show the convex mirror wasn't your biggest 1.

Why do you keep embarrassing yourself?

Never said it was, show me where I said that it was? You once again twisting and swerving.. I will wait

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Never said it was, show me where I said that it was? You once again twisting and swerving.. I will wait

Yes. You did.

Do you need me to embarrass you with that again too ?

 

[Highway Man]

Yes. You did.

Do you need me to embarrass you with that again too ?

Yes I will wait

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I think we've already established that many MOT testers don't understand the rules.

Proof that someone doesn't understand a rule definitely does not prove that they're not an MOT tester!

 

[Highway Man]

I think we've already established that many MOT testers don't understand the rules.

Proof that someone doesn't understand a rule definitely does not prove that they're not an MOT tester!

I suppose, but it does show that MOT testers really should know the rules or we could all end up paying for unessesary repairs that are not needed. It shouldn't be a lottery or luck of the draw who you get.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I think we've already established that many MOT testers don't understand the rules.

Proof that someone doesn't understand a rule definitely does not prove that they're not an MOT tester!

Have we?

Or have we established that a few don't ?

Or have we established there's a lot of unsunsubstaniated bias?

The 1st rule of testing is to know where to find the information needed.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I suppose, but it does show that MOT testers really should know the rules or we could all end up paying for unessesary repairs that are not needed. It shouldn't be a lottery or luck of the draw who you get.

More billy BS

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Yes I will wait

See the other thread. I've put it there

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I'd add that when I do indicate left, pull over and gently brake I've already checked that the road ahead is straight and clear. They've already passed the stupid test by tailgating, so I don't rely on them having the intelligence to make a decision.

A few months back I was watching a tv prog and celebs were discussing things that annoy them. One of the celebs said she gets really annoyed when driving along and sees the cars around and ahead of her leaving what she considers too big a gap. She said something to the effect 'it's a waste of road leaving all that empty space. They should bunch up more, plus they'll get where they're going quicker'.

I don't think she was saying it for comedic effect, it seemed to be a genuine annoyance for her.

With folk like that on the road, is it any wonder tailgating seems to be an ever increasing aspect of driving today.

 

[morqthana]

Don't compete.

I don't - no idea why what I wrote made you think I do.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

A few months back I was watching a tv prog and celebs were discussing things that annoy them. One of the celebs said she gets really annoyed when driving along and sees the cars around and ahead of her leaving what she considers too big a gap. She said something to the effect 'it's a waste of road leaving all that empty space. They should bunch up more, plus they'll get where they're going quicker'.

I don't think she was saying it for comedic effect, it seemed to be a genuine annoyance for her.

With folk like that on the road, is it any wonder tailgating seems to be an ever increasing aspect of driving today.

There was a driving instructor on youtube with this theory too - an angle I hadn't considered.

They're getting annoyed with me because they think I'm not keeping up, and probably not doing my bit to push along those further ahead.

I suspect the reality is that not much thought is going on in their heads. What they really think is "durrrr.... in a rush want go quicker, car in way". That's probably about it.

There really needs to be some stopping distance enforcement. It must contribute to a massive proportion of collisions, injuries and deaths.

I kind-of "caused" a crash recently. I was waiting to turn right off a main road with a 60 limit. The person coming the other way kindly but stupidly stopped to let me cross. The car behind them stopped, abruptly as they were too close. The next one along whacked into the back of them. I looped around to offer my dashcam footage. They were both of the opinion that the one who stopped was at fault and had fled the scene. I had to break the bad news to the one at the back.

 

[morqthana]

They're getting annoyed with me because they think I'm not keeping up, and probably not doing my bit to push along those further ahead.

I wonder if they're the same people who when seeing a sign for lane closed ahead think everybody should move into the non-closed lane immediately.

I suspect the reality is that not much thought is going on in their heads. What they really think is "durrrr.... in a rush want go quicker, car in way". That's probably about it.

I bet they don't know that evening out traffic flow by having longer gaps can often lead to higher average speeds.

There really needs to be some stopping distance enforcement. It must contribute to a massive proportion of collisions, injuries and deaths.

Mandatory dash cams, required to be running & recording, recordings easily obtainable without warrants after an accident.

I kind-of "caused" a crash recently. I was waiting to turn right off a main road with a 60 limit. The person coming the other way kindly but stupidly stopped to let me cross. The car behind them stopped, abruptly as they were too close. The next one along whacked into the back of them. I looped around to offer my dashcam footage. They were both of the opinion that the one who stopped was at fault and had fled the scene. I had to break the bad news to the one at the back.

More than once I've had people giving way to me when I'm joining a roundabout. I've never seen anybody smack into the back of them, but I always think "Jeez - I hope we never meet with the positions reversed, and you sail out in front of me because you think I should be giving way..."

[BUGBEAR]
People who slow down to let me pull out or turn off, and there's nobody behind them, but in less than the time it takes for me to be sure they have slowed for me, they could have been past me and gone, so both of us have been needlessly delayed.
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[Harry Bloomfield]

There was a driving instructor on youtube with this theory too - an angle I hadn't considered.

T/braking they're getting annoyed with me because they think I'm not keeping up, and probably not doing my bit to push along those further ahead.

Assuming you can keep up with the vehicles ahead, I find there is an ideal range of space to maintain, between you and the vehicle ahead. Leave too big a space, and it encourages those waiting to pull out from side roads, to risk it. Get too close, and you may not have enough thinking/braking time, and risk rear ending.

 

[Brigadier]

People who won't use bus lanes that are clearly signed as "out-of-hours", clagging up the road.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

People who won't use bus lanes that are clearly signed as "out-of-hours", clagging up the road.

I used to regularly have to visit a bank, near a university, not far out of the city centre, it had a bus lane in operation from afternoons only, but used to be busy most of the day, with everyone carefully avoiding the bus lane, even in the mornings. My route would take me from the centre, up that road, so I would make a point of travelling in the morning rush hour, up that bus lane. It used to save me many minutes of queuing, almost a private road, apart from the odd bus getting in the way.