How to fit this light?

[Halloween Jack]

Hi folks,

We have a new ceiling light with this fitting:



We have what looks like a standard ceiling rose:



It looks like we need to remove the ceiling rose and attach the new fitting directly to the ceiling. I guess this is ok? But we'll have to connect the neutrals with a new connector. Is there something in particular I should use for this? And what should I do with all the wires can I just push them in to the ceiling cavity?

Thanks

 

[Risteard]

But we'll have to connect the neutrals with a new connector.

Wrong.

 

[EFLImpudence]

https://www.diynot.com/wiki/Electrics:Lighting-Rose

 

[crystal ball]

Wrong.

Very helpful as usual

 

[Halloween Jack]

Yeah sorry I meant the switched live. The 3 red cables that are connected in the current rose.

Anyway, obviously I'll connect it in the same fashion after taking a close up photo.

My question was more about how to attach the new light and whether I can push the cables into the roof cavity.

Thanks

 

[Halloween Jack]

Ah yes, that link is exactly what I need.

Thanks

 

[EFLImpudence]

My question was more about how to attach the new light and whether I can push the cables into the roof cavity.

If the ceiling cables are long enough the connectors can go in the 'base/cup'.

If not, you will need something like this to go in the ceiling.
https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ASJ501.html

 

[Risteard]

Yeah sorry I meant the switched live. (sic)

Not the switched line/phase either.

 

[crystal ball]

Not the switched line/phase either.

Such a helpful poster

 

[333rocky333]

Yeah sorry I meant the switched live. The 3 red cables that are connected in the current rose.


Thanks

Think you mean the permanent lives, they will go in a seperate connecter

 

[Risteard]

Think you mean the permanent lives, they will go in a seperate connecter

Depends. Neutral is a permanent live.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Depends. Neutral is a permanent live.

Mmmm. Not sure that 'permanent' is correct.


Anyway, we are giving advice to DIYers in language they will understand.

Also, we don't use 'phase' for this any more.

 

[winston1]

Such a helpful poster

If you are being sarcastic, don't. Risteard was right on both occasions. It is important the OP learns what is correct.

 

[scousespark]

Just one point relating to the link EFLI posted. The diagram shows red/red for the switch cable. In your photo, this is the cable with red sleeve on the black conductor (as far as I can see)

 

[scousespark]

If you are being sarcastic, don't. Risteard was right on both occasions. It is important the OP learns what is correct.

Yet nothing posted by Risteard had anything resembling advice.