I'm having trouble installing this fitting. There's a ceiling mount (a hook to support the light fitting) which I think attaches to the ceiling rose, but I can't see any way this will fit. Does anyone out there know how I go about this please?! 
IKEA Light fitting
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breezer
yes, you dont attatch the hook to the ceiling rose, you screw the hook into the joist to take the weight
Wouldnt it be great though if lighting manufacturers came up with a bracket for their new light that fixed through the existing ceiling rose fixings. Allowing you to leave all existing wiring in place and just connect your 3 cores to the exisiting rose.
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breezer
you can, just stick the hook next to rose, connect cable into ceiling rose, sorted
the place i work has the 6 foot fluorescent lights in the warehouse connected to plug-in ceiling roses with loops of flex. Heaven knows why though - the place was rewired when they installed the fluorescents! Why not just wire them straight in?breezer said:
i'd bet the reason is MAINTAINANCE
if a fitting goes wrong it can be easilly and definately isolated (do you really trust normal switches or secret key switches for isolation? i sure as hell wouldn't) and even taken down for repair or replacement if needed with zero disruption to the rest of the install.
compare to the situation with them wired straight in:
hope there is a way of lighting the area thats on another cuircuit if not set up suitable work lighting, find the db, find the key for the db, turn off breaker, open terminal enclosure very carefully in case you got the wrong breaker and test for dead. and that assumes you can fix it in place and quickly or you are replacing it and have the replacement to hand.
if a fitting goes wrong it can be easilly and definately isolated (do you really trust normal switches or secret key switches for isolation? i sure as hell wouldn't) and even taken down for repair or replacement if needed with zero disruption to the rest of the install.
compare to the situation with them wired straight in:
hope there is a way of lighting the area thats on another cuircuit if not set up suitable work lighting, find the db, find the key for the db, turn off breaker, open terminal enclosure very carefully in case you got the wrong breaker and test for dead. and that assumes you can fix it in place and quickly or you are replacing it and have the replacement to hand.
fair enough plug 
after all, the MCBs for this circuit are locked in an automated distribution board, which i mentioned here before after controversially resetting the MCB for the warehouse lights shock horror, and the light that caused the MCB to trip still hasn't been fixed, the area manager says its to save energy, but theres a dark area in the warehouse now, then he has the cheek to go on at us about H&S in other areas of the shop 
"staff can die, they are replaceable, its customers we want to protect" kind of attitude
The way the warehouse lights were re-wired, is the old steel conduit was used and plug in ceiling roses superimposed on the old round junction boxes. Flex from the ceiling roses goes in plastic trunking to 2 lights each (i take it they didnt want to extend the metal conduit, so used long lengths of flex instead)
after all, the MCBs for this circuit are locked in an automated distribution board, which i mentioned here before after controversially resetting the MCB for the warehouse lights shock horror, and the light that caused the MCB to trip still hasn't been fixed, the area manager says its to save energy, but theres a dark area in the warehouse now, then he has the cheek to go on at us about H&S in other areas of the shop "staff can die, they are replaceable, its customers we want to protect" kind of attitudeThe way the warehouse lights were re-wired, is the old steel conduit was used and plug in ceiling roses superimposed on the old round junction boxes. Flex from the ceiling roses goes in plastic trunking to 2 lights each (i take it they didnt want to extend the metal conduit, so used long lengths of flex instead)
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