Do any intermediate switches have built in terminals for the common wire, or do you always have to use a chocolate block?
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None have that I have ver seen.
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Normal Hager switches have a terminal for a neutral loop, not sure about intermediates though
Intermediate switching doesn't use a common conductor but two sets of strappers, so no.
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But very often there are 3 conductors between the switches with the conductor linking the two commons in the same triple and earth cable as the two strappers.
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Just had a look at the Hager Sollysta catalogue and it seems all switches have a loop terminal
Never really done that way here. The conversion method of two-way switching is not the norm here.
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Their PDF isn't detailed enough, this seller states that...
"Intermediate switches do not have the integral neutral loop terminal"
https://www.wentvaleelectricalltd.c...a-intermediate-wide-rocker-switch-15480-p.asp
Even though Hager's own website says that they do, I think they have just copied and pasted the specs from the normal switches.
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1) The OP is not where you are, he is in a different part of the UK.
2) What is done in your part of the UK if people want to turn 1-way switching into 2- or more way?
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Their PDF isn't detailed enough, this seller states that...
"Intermediate switches do not have the integral neutral loop terminal"
https://www.wentvaleelectricalltd.c...a-intermediate-wide-rocker-switch-15480-p.asp
Even though Hager's own website says that they do, I think they have just copied and pasted the specs from the normal switches.
I did wonder where the extra terminal would be, as all four locations will be in use
The norm is though, for the two common wires to go in a connector block, I would say.
If anyone wanted to do a 'loop in at the switch' method, this COULD be done at the intermediate, so one could argue an intermediate switch could have TWO loop terminals.
But that would be silly.
I stated "not the norm". Obviously the conversion method could be used when converting from 1-way to 2-way - hence the name. (Although many might opt to rewire it with a traditional approach.)
In the whole island of Ireland there are two sets of electrical standards. In the Six Counties BS7671 is used and in the 26-Counties ET101 is mandatory. The latter does not permit remarking of conductors, so 3-core cable is not legal within a single phase system. Incidentally, old-style T&E is now also prohibited.
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The norm is to have two sets of strappers. So here we would have two twin brown cables (for a T&E installation) into an intermediate switch and that would be it.
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Depends on how long ago the tradition started, I have been sparking for 40+ years and never seen the trad method used in domestic wiring, seen it often enough in conduit /singles installations though
It is more desirable to wire multiway switches with 3C&E due to the reduced RFI this method creates.
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