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Iran

May I be allowed to dispel one frequently expressed myth, that of Iran wanting the destruction of Israel.
Yes, it is perfectly true that Iran refuses to recognise the legitimacy of Israel. Just like Israel (along with USA and most other western countries) refuses to recognise the existence of Palestine. But that does not mean that Iran wants the destruction of Israel. It just refuses to recognise the legitimacy of the existence of Israel, and for good reason.
The UN Resolution in 1948 never allowed for the unilateral declaration of a Jewish, nor Palestinian state.
For Israel to unilaterally declare the independence and separation from Palestine was over and above the UN Resolution.

Iran, in refusing to recognise the legitimacy of the existence of Israel has allowed Israel to promote the misunderstanding of their policy.

There are other 'states' in the world that are not recognised as legitimate by other countries, e.g. Taiwan not recognised by China, North Korea and South Korea are not universally recognised states. There are many others, e.g. Cyprus is not universally recognised as two separate states.

So for Israel to misconstrue Iran's policy of not recognising the legitimacy of Israel as an intent to destroy Israel, is an intentional misrepresentation of Iran's policy.

On the other hand, Israel refuses to recognise Palestine as a sovereign state, and appears committed to its destruction.
I believe the appropriate word is 'hypocrisy' on the part of Israel, accusing Iran of something that only arises from Israel's misrepresentation of their policy, when they are not only guilty of the same thing, with Palestine, but are demonstrably pursuing that goal.
You have forgotten to mention the Islamic Republic of Iran is the worlds leading state sponsor of terror.

Iran is a country full of lovely people, it’s the leaders who are the problem. The same is true of Israel.
 
Nobody can be certain about Trump's 30,000lb bunker buster bombing until independent reporting eventually trickles out form Iran.
Whether the bunker buster does the job or not is irrelevant.
This war isn't about Irans nuclear programme,only gullible believe that.
If the real motive for attacking Iran was known, then the general public might not be supportive.
 
Whether the bunker buster does the job or not is irrelevant.
This war isn't about Irans nuclear programme,only gullible believe that.
If the real motive for attacking Iran was known, then the general public might not be supportive.
Why not share those motives in this topic for all to read.
 
It is difficult enough to try to understand what goes on in the USA, let alone countries and cultures as different as those in the Middle East. I was reading an article last night about the siege of Mecca in 1979, which I had totally forgotten. At the time, the Saudi government was less repressive, but the more devout sections of the population didn't like it. So, after putting down the rebellion, the Saudis made the country much more repressive and hard line Islamic in order to appease those factions. There is so much we don't know about Iran and the internal tensions.
 
If the real motive for attacking Iran was known, then the general public might not be supportive.

And the other question is, why now?
(And if your answer is that "they're weeks away from having nukes!", Israel and the US have been saying the same thing since the 90's..............)
 
Why not share those motives in this topic for all to read.
The same reason Iraq was attacked.
A thorn in the side of Israel.
Saddam Hussein was fitted up using lies and scare stories about WMDs.
His crime was supporting the Palestinian cause,it has been Israeli policy for years to target countries that support Palestine in order to isolate the Palestinians, so that their will to resist will be reduced to the point where they will accept any final solution that the Israelis wish to impose on them.

Even if Iran got rid of its nuclear programme tomorrow it wouldn't do them any good.
Iran has been listed for regime change for years, they want the present government replaced with a pro Israel puppet.
 
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And the other question is, why now?
(And if your answer is that "they're weeks away from having nukes!", Israel and the US have been saying the same thing since the 90's..............)
Netanyahu has made a career for the last 30 years out of claiming that Iran was on the verge producing a nuclear bomb.

The sad thing is that most of the people who support the attack on Iran know it just another lie but they still parrot it because for some irrational reason they like to see Muslims suffering.
 
look at Irans collaborative dealings with Al qaeda
That isn't why Iran is being targeted by Israel and America.
Israel has had dealings with Islamic fundamentalists,as has America.
Just yesterday I think it was that 20 Syrian Christians were murdered in a church by a suicide bomber, since Assad has been deposed, 100's of Christians and other religious minorities have been killed by religious fanatics.
Syria is now being ruled by Islamists who have been endorsed by Trump and Netanyahu, the deal is, do what you like in Syria but don't attack Israel or you will be annihilated.
 
You really believe that don't you.
Yes.

Why?

Because it's true ;)

No doubt you'll reply with a history lesson for me, explaining why Iran can't live peacefully, perhaps also asserting it's everyone else's fault except the Iranian leaders.
 
That isn't why Iran is being targeted by Israel and America
I agree.

I was just pointing out that Iran is a major player in global terrorism, bombing Iran will result in more terrorism.

I don’t see USA bombing Iran is going to play out well for the West long term.
 
All this fear over a country and nuclear weapons yet the country doing the attacking no one has got a clue how many nuclear weapons it has and wont allow any inspections or sign nuclear weapon treaty .
And Iran is the bad guy
 
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