Is my flue dangerous

[doyle]

Sorry just seen your post about the distances.

I will measure tonight.

I am in the Bolton area.

me too me old mucker if you want i could have a quick look for you and if its needs replacing i can have a rgi watch me change it for my portfollio's.
what type of boile ris it on anyway if you dont mind me asking.

lgc err forgotten the initials
na old installer wont be responsible as it was proberbly safe when he left it.
builder should have ensured that he was operating within limits of what was already installed.

 

[gas4you]

Does that mean you do it for free

 

[Agile]

Whoever carried out the loft conversion works has compromised the safety of a gas appliance even though he may not have touched the flue and is therefore in breach of the Gas Safety Regulations.

Whilst thats all true, the builder will not have studied the Gas safety Regulations.

However, he still has a responsibility to comply with the Building Regulations. I suspect there is no contravention of the BR and the only problem is that in addition to the manufacturer's specified minimum distances there is a "catch all" requirement that any flue will not cause danger or inconvenience. As installed the flue was complient.

It was the installation of the window that caused the danger but the builder was not qualified to know.

Tony

 

[doyle]

unfortunatly the cost would go to the rgi has it would be hes job not mine and i would have to labour for free yes. free call out to check it yes if thats what you mean.

 

[giblets]

It was the installation of the window that caused the danger but the builder was not qualified to know.

Tony, I don't think you will find that that is a valid defence. He should have been aware of possible problems and called in an RGI to confirm.

 

[doyle]

yeah what you say sounds about right hwever any person in trade doing such work should be savvy enough to know that the flue would the become unsafe.
just like with the acs you learn other stuff that is important to what you are doing is safe.

 

[con1_uk]

Thanks for all your replies so far this has turned out to be a hot topic.

We are not using the room yet as it is not finished. The window was installed after the flue and the boiler is only 2 years old its a Worcester Bosch.

I can get up there and measure from the bottom of the window to the flue will that give me a measurement you need?

 

[doyle]

you need not measure as the flue should pass above the window and needs a minimum height above it, thats why products from the boiler are entering the home. so now its a case of what does it need to rectify the problem.
give us the model of the bosch and i try to look up the max flue run ect for that boiler

 

[Gasman1015]

Thanks for all your replies so far this has turned out to be a hot topic.

We are not using the room yet as it is not finished. The window was installed after the flue and the boiler is only 2 years old its a Worcester Bosch.

I can get up there and measure from the bottom of the window to the flue will that give me a measurement you need?

The flue has to be at least two metres from the base of the window to the flue terminal to conform to MI's.

 

[con1_uk]

Just been up and measured it the base of the window is 2.7mtrs from the nearest part of the flue but the flue is down the roof.

 

[giblets]

TBH I think a piccy or two might help here.

Any chance?

 

[con1_uk]

Here you go

The flue looks closer I took the picture from out of the loft window.

 

[con1_uk]

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/Conbrue/LoftPictures/photo#5068225294222985314

 

[Gasguru]

Went top a job last week - the builder had removed the flue from the boiler located in the garage (its terminal was in the way of the new extension) and just left it near the front door as the owners were out.

No phone call or note for the owners.

He couldn't possibly know if the heating had been turned off as he didn't have access inside the house. If the owners had come home in the dark and not seen the flue the garage would have been filled with combustion products (directly under a bedroom).

Some people are really that thick.

I suppose I could RIDDOR but we know its a waste of time.

Had another one where the flue on the Servowarm (natural draught balanced flue) was located directly underneath the window. The window had previously been a fixed light so no hazard. A new double glazed PVC window had been installed (PVC cill) with a top hinge.

How about an asbestos removal firm that took out the open flue on a warm air unit. They even repaired the hole in the compartment ceiling. They left the unit ready to use - tenants were about to move in.

 

[giblets]

I think you are going to have to let us know the model of Worcester Boiler.

Can't say I'm too impressed with the flue installation. The white bit of flue should not be seen at all normally and it would have been better to use a proper weathering slate rather than a soil pipe weathering slate - IMHO