Is this legal?

[SJRSJR]

I'm having a kitchen installed and the fitter who is also the electrician and plumber (PART P qualified) has installed some of the sockets inside the kitchen units. Is this allowed?

I was expecting the cables and sockets to be in place before the walls were plastered but a lot of it has gone in afterwards. I have the oven socket in the cupboard above the oven housing and the washing machine and tumbler dryer sockets in the cupboard under then sink. The cable running to the sockets is just lying on the floor behnd the plinth and junction boxes are lying loose.

Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks

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[Lectrician]

Your top pic with the socket is very poorly done. I would be making ripples about that.

As for having items inthe cupboards....

An isolator for the cooker etc should not be ina cupboard.

Sockets for appliances can be installed into the cupboards. Cables are usually clipped to the wall behind the units before they are fitted, but are often laid on the floor. No real problem as the area is 'inaccessible'.

I cannot vouch for how well your installtion is done, but if that socket shows the workmanship as a whole, I would not be happy at all.

 

[Spark123]

What a mess!
The sheath of the cable should be terminated inside the socket.

 

[17thman]

I understand that the socket oulets have to be attatched to the building fabric and an isolator must be in a readily available psition woth no doubt as to what it isolates.

 

[RF Lighting]

You should have called this thread "picture of the week"

 

[333rocky333]

I understand that the socket oulets have to be attatched to the building fabric

Thats in the building regs quide
Not in the 17th regs as far as I know

 

[RF Lighting]

Would you class fixed cabinets in a kitchen as part of the building fabric?

I think this is more aimed to prevent sockets just being left flapping about in building voids etc.

 

[17thman]

did i say it was in the regs. It is just good practice and i would want my house wired to good practice and not just what it says in a big fat red book.

 

[SJRSJR]

Thanks. What should I do? He's registered with Corgi for gas and electric. He hasn't finished the job yet so I haven't paid him in full.

I've just pulled my washing machine out and taken this photo. Should that junction box be lying like that? What if there was a leak from the washing machine. I already asked him to move the hose connectors from behind the machine to a visible place under the sink because it's already leaked and I didn't find out until it seeped out in front

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[17thman]

its all opinion i suppose and i would not consider some cheap laminated chip board as acceptable or indeed part of the building fabric.

 

[17thman]

quote 522.8.4, 522.8.5. 522.3.2. that is a mess and i would not even let him back in my house.

 

[333rocky333]

did i say it was in the regs. It is just good practice and i would want my house wired to good practice and not just what it says in a big fat red book.

I agree with you 17th man
The answer was more for the OP
Who asked if it was legal
If it failed to conform to the 17th regs he may have more legal standing.

 

[GaryMo]

quote 522.8.4, 522.8.5. 522.3.2. that is a mess and i would not even let him back in my house.

2.5t&e isn't heavy enough to suffer damage though it's own weight, especially in such short lengths.
I also think water would naturally escape.

I'm not condoning this work, far from it but the regs you've chosen aren't really applicable.

 

[17thman]

from a floating junction box with a washing macjine leak?

 

[17thman]

the conductor terminations will come under stress though, snagging, vibration on that flapping cable. those are perfectly adequate regs