Israel under attack

[fillyboy]

Just to refresh Roy's fading memory:

It’s awful the way Hamas hide amongst the civilian population in Gaza

they seem to have plenty of room to have arms factories……

Still refusing to look at the map and find anything bigger than a school playgound that is not embedded in the civilian infrastructure?
You do know what they say about people who refuse to even look for the truth?
By the way, that's the second time recently that you and fillyboy have posted within minutes of each other.
Are you two conferring? Or maybe joined at the head?

oh look, Gaza industrial estate…a massive industrial area away from civilian populations

its an awful lot bigger than a school playground

https://www.padico.com/en/industrial-cities/

And that's in Gaza is it?

Back to the drawing board for you. Even better attend a few geography leasons.
You might need to find a suitable early-learner programme.
Learn where Gaza is.

Padico Holding (the owner) is indeed based near Ramallah in Israel. Gaza Industrial Estate is in Gaza, East of Gaza City,, 4km from the city centre, total area 50 hectares.
Notch is spot on.

Notch is way off, as usual.
And you've been proven to be an outrageous liar, so anything you say has to be taken with a pinch of salt.

Hint it doesn't exist.
You've been had, sucker.

By the way, the border to the East of Gaza City is about 3 km.
That would put this industrial complex on the border with israel.
It might even be in Israel.

 

[fillyboy]

'll look back in tomorrow to see if either of them have thought out why Israel keeps destroying an industrial complex, close to the border,

The one you said doesn't exist. Get help Roy.

 

[Notch7]

I was playing you and Notch to find it, and additional information about it.
You fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Now, instead of being silly, answer my question, "why do you think Israel keeps derstroying it?"

good grief Himmie, the “it was only a joke” excuse is lame even for you.

Im sure you are a decent fella with a backbone so will be along soon to admit you were wrong and apologise.

 

[Notch7]

The one you said doesn't exist. Get help Roy.

Poor Himmie twists himself inside out.

 

[Odds]

Pause for thought​

 

[transam]

The videos of terrified civilian Israeli hostages being driven through Gaza in the back of pick
Up trucks being beaten and abused by the residents pretty much sums up who you are dealing with

 

[Odds]

The videos of terrified civilian Israeli hostages being driven through Gaza in the back of pick
Up trucks being beaten and abused by the residents pretty much sums up who you are dealing with

Do you think sending in troops and tanks will rescue them in time?

 

[Roy Bloom]

Just to refresh Roy's fading memory:

The one you said doesn't exist. Get help Roy.

good grief Himmie, the “it was only a joke” excuse is lame even for you.

Im sure you are a decent fella with a backbone so will be along soon to admit you were wrong and apologise.

Poor Himmie twists himself inside out.

Just to refresh the two squirming worms, "think of a reason why Israel frequently attacks a solar panel array on top of 1000's of employmnet opportunities embedded within the civilian infrastructure, which Notch claims Hamas are not using as a military facility"
It looks like you've had all night to think of a reason, and still can't.
Let me help you:
Indiscriminate bombing?
Gratuitous bombing?
Collective revenge?
Perhaps Hamas were using it as a military facility after all?
No that's not possible because (according to Notch, Rishi Sunak, Netanyahu, et al) they embed themselves within the civilian population. But this was embedded within the civilian population, it housed 1000's of emploment opportunities.

So why were Israel frequently destroying it? Unless one of my suggestions above was correct?
In which case, Israel is committing war crimes, frequently and with impunity, or, Hamas were doing their best to not embed themselves within civilian infrastructure. That would make Notch's (and rishi's, netanyahu's, et al) claim totally invalid and absurd.

Any other places in Gaza that you can find that are not embedded within the civilian population, for Hamas to use?
There is no where in Gaza that is not embedded within the civilian infrastructure.

We've mentioned the population density of Gaza, one of the highest in the world, something equivalent to London, except London is 5 times the size of Gaza.
In one week alone Israel has bombed Gaza with 6,000 bombs. We're now into the 12th day of that bombardment, so a rough estimate of about 10,000 bombs, on an area 1/5 of London, with one of the highest population densities in the world.
And you don't call that terror. You (and Rishis, and Biden, and Netanyahu, et al) call it self-defence.

There are estimated over 1,000 people, dead or alive, no-one knows buried under collapsed buildings, and rubble.
And you don't call that terror. You (and Rishis, and Biden, and Netanyahu, et al) call it self-defence.

Dozens of people have been killed in the West Bank, in reprisal killings, in the last few days.
And you don't call that terror. You (and Rishis, and Biden, and Netanyahu, et al) call it self-defence.

 

[Roy Bloom]

good grief Himmie, the “it was only a joke” excuse is lame even for you.

Im sure you are a decent fella with a backbone so will be along soon to admit you were wrong and apologise.

It wasn't a joke. The whole thing is no joke.
It was goading you (and fillyboy) into doing some research into the actual 'example' that you presented as not being embedded within the civilian infrastructure.
In doing so, we established
a) it is indeed embedded within the civilin infrasteructure, it housed 1000's of employment opportunites, And due to the poor transport infrastructure in Gaza, employment opportunities must be within easy reach of the houses.
b) it was frequently destroyed by Israel, thereby destroying the employment opportiunities, thereby reducing Gaza's GDP and further impoverishing Gazeans. These destructive actions ocurred within and without specific conflict periods.
c) it was within easy reach of the border with israel, so destroying it would be an easy task for Israel.
d) it provided a decent amount of electric to Gaza, 7.5MWatts, out of 120MWatts of the Gaza demand.
e) Gaza suffered frequent and prolonged power outages.

So thanks to you and fillyboy for providing a few nteresting bits of information about Gaza, and the ridiculous claim that Hamas embed themselves within the civilian population.

 

[Roy Bloom]

The videos of terrified civilian Israeli hostages being driven through Gaza in the back of pick
Up trucks being beaten and abused by the residents pretty much sums up who you are dealing with

According to Hamas, they were captured in order to negotiate the release of thousands of Palestinian hostages held by Israel.
Bombing, tanks and soldiers won't achieve the release of the Palestinian, nor Israeli hostages.

All it will achieve is more senseless killing.

 

[Notch7]

It wasn't a joke. The whole thing is no joke.
It was goading you (and fillyboy) into doing some research into the actual 'example' that you presented as not being embedded within the civilian infrastructure.
In doing so, we established
a) it is indeed embedded within the civilin infrasteructure, it housed 1000's of employment opportunites, And due to the poor transport infrastructure in Gaza, employment opportunities must be within easy reach of the houses.
b) it was frequently destroyed by Israel, thereby destroying the employment opportiunities, thereby reducing Gaza's GDP and further impoverishing Gazeans. These destructive actions ocurred within and without specific conflict periods.
c) it was within easy reach of the border with israel, so destroying it would be an easy task for Israel.
d) it provided a decent amount of electric to Gaza, 7.5MWatts, out of 120MWatts of the Gaza demand.
e) Gaza suffered frequent and prolonged power outages.

So thanks to you and fillyboy for providing a few nteresting bits of information about Gaza, and the ridiculous claim that Hamas embed themselves within the civilian population.

Thank you for the essay response.

But all you needed to do was say "I am sorry, I was wrong"

Go on, be a man not a mouse needing a spine transplant......you will feel better bout yourself being honest.

 

[Notch7]

According to Hamas, they were captured in order to negotiate the release of thousands of Palestinian hostages held by Israel.
Bombing, tanks and soldiers won't achieve the release of the Palestinian, nor Israeli hostages.

All it will achieve is more senseless killing.

Have Hamas released any demands to release these fictitious "thousands held by Israel"

If you could post a link to their demands that would be most helpful

 

[Roy Bloom]

Thank you for the essay response.

But all you needed to do was say "I am sorry, I was wrong"

Go on, be a man not a mouse needing a spine transplant......you will feel better bout yourself being honest.

Your example provided 1000's of employment opportunities. So for you to claim it was not embedded in the civilian infrastructure is invalid and nonsensical. What is more, Israel frequently destroys that facility, within and outside of specific conflict periods.
And you still can't or won't explian why.
It is you that needs to apologise and admit you were wrong.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Have Hamas released any demands to release these fictitious "thousands held by Israel"

If you could post a link to their demands that would be most helpful

You'll dismiss it as not evidence, because it doesn't suit your narrative, or because you simply don't like it.

A number of hostages were taken back to Gaza. On 16 October, Hamas claimed it held 250 hostages. Hamas said it took prisoners to force Israel to release its Palestinian prisoners

Operation Al-Aqsa Flood - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

A reminder that Israel holds about 5,000 Palestinian hostages, and has done for many years.

 

[Vinty]

Hamas has a choice, it could recognise Israel as a state and it could allow Palestinians to peacefully negotiate a 2 party state

There won't be a 2 party state.
Israel doesn't want that to happen.
A key demand of the Palestinians is the return of millions of Palestinian refugees who were ethnically cleansed in 1948.
Israel will never agree to that.