Israel under attack

[Koolpc]

Can i just add i do not in any way support Rishi's comments "We want Israel to win'

Not for me thanks.

I want peace to prevail and the suffering on both sides to stop immediately, there will never be a solution until a fair peace solution for both sides is on the table.

I agree somewhat but, i want Israel to win against hamas. Its obvious hamas are a cowardly terrorist organisation hell bent on wiping out the Jewish population. That is their only agenda....

 

[SirGalahad]

Can i just add i do not in any way support Rishi's comments "We want Israel to win'

Not for me thanks.

I want peace to prevail and the suffering on both sides to stop immediately, there will never be a solution until a fair peace solution for both sides is on the table.

I am tired of the UK being dragged into conflicts with no end. The Palestinians won't stop and neither will Israel, so the only viable solution is a three state solution on 1967 borders policed by the UN.

Sure it will cost but the world can at least but to bed an open sore for the Middle East and we can then move on and deal with global issues.

 

[Roy Bloom]

Just noticed the Last Meal thread. I could have posted there but didn't want to spoil the joviality of the thread.
It reminded me of what the wife of the First Minister of Scotland said the other day:
"Every person in Gaza is waiting to die."

 

[Roy Bloom]

I agree somewhat but, i want Israel to win against hamas. Its obvious hamas are a cowardly terrorist organisation hell bent on wiping out the Jewish population. That is their only agenda....

You're believing the corrupted "from the river to the sea" message of Hamas.
It's been corrupted by Israel, USA and UK.

I bet you've never heard anything like what you say from Hamas.
Theri declared objective is:

The Palestinian militant group Hamas unveiled a new policy document Monday that sees the group accepting for the first time the idea of a Palestinian state that would fall within the borders that existed in 1967, before Israel took control of the West Bank, Gaza and all of Jerusalem.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/01/middleeast/hamas-charter-palestinian-israeli/

Nothing like the version put out by Israel, and since adopted by USA and UK.
Israel published their version of the Hanas charter as:

“Hamas is attempting to fool the world but it will not succeed,” said David Keyes, a spokesman for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. “Daily, Hamas leaders call for genocide of all Jews and the destruction of Israel.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/01/middleeast/hamas-charter-palestinian-israeli/

 

[Notch7]

Take a look at the link provided by fillyboy.
I've hidden the relevant bit here:

In recent years, Gaza Industrial Estate has suffered significant losses due to repeated shelling of the Gaza Strip, especially during the aggression on the strip in May 2021, which destroyed many industrial installations and infrastructure, including part of the solar power plant.

Evidence

Thank you for admitting you are completely and utterly wrong as usual

you said: “it has been frequently destroyed”

the article you link said: “it’s been destroyed once”


You seem to struggle a tad with the English language as your evidence never supports your assertions

 

[fillyboy]

“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”

 

[Roy Bloom]

Thank you for admitting you are completely and utterly wrong as usual

you said: “it has been frequently destroyed”

the article you link said: “it’s been destroyed once”


You seem to struggle a tad with the English language as your evidence never supports your assertions

Obviously you haven't read the link properly.
I'll reveal the hidden bit.
Then I won't wait around for you to apologise, i's not your done thing.
Squirming and accusing is your done thing.

Take a look at the link provided by fillyboy.
I've hidden the relevant bit here:

In recent years, Gaza Industrial Estate has suffered significant losses due to repeated shelling of the Gaza Strip, especially during the aggression on the strip in May 2021, which destroyed many industrial installations and infrastructure, including part of the solar power plant.

Evidence

 

[Notch7]

You're believing the corrupted "from the river to the sea" message of Hamas.
It's been corrupted by Israel, USA and UK.

I bet you've never heard anything like what you say from Hamas.
Theri declared objective is

You’ve taken it out of context. Tut tut

lets have a look at Hamas the terrorist group policy document

1) it wants to continue terrorist activities: “And it defends armed resistance, stating, “The resistance to occupation, by all means and methods, is a legitimate right guaranteed by divine laws, customs and international laws.”

2) it refuses to acknowledge the state of Israel: “However, the new document offers no recognition of the legitimacy of the “Zionist enemy


In other words it’s not a serious attempt at a negotiated settlement

 

[Notch7]

Obviously you haven't read the link properly.
I'll reveal the hidden bit

“repeated shelling”

does not mean

”frequently destroyed”


Thank you for providing yet another example pf you struggling with the English language….did you ever study English comprehension, perhaps you might consider a refresher course.

 

[Roy Bloom]

“The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: ‘O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.’”

Fillyboy has gone full evangelistic.

I did warn you that Israel puts out its own version of the Hamas charter.
And fillyboy quotes the Israeli version of the Hamas charter.

https://embassies.gov.il/hague-en/aboutisrael/themiddleeast/Pages/Hamas-Covenant.aspx

 

[denso13]

ts obvious hamas are a cowardly terrorist organisation hell bent on wiping out the Jewish population. That is their only agenda....

Yes.

THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

 

[Roy Bloom]

You’ve taken it out of context. Tut tut

lets have a look at Hamas the terrorist group policy document

1) it wants to continue terrorist activities: “And it defends armed resistance, stating, “The resistance to occupation, by all means and methods, is a legitimate right guaranteed by divine laws, customs and international laws.”

2) it refuses to acknowledge the state of Israel: “However, the new document offers no recognition of the legitimacy of the “Zionist enemy


In other words it’s not a serious attempt at a negotiated settlement

Link to your evidence of this Hamas policy document?


This bit is a right,

“The resistance to occupation, by all means and methods, is a legitimate right guaranteed by divine laws, customs and international laws.”

a right of defence and armed struggle against the military occupiers.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Can i just add i do not in any way support Rishi's comments "We want Israel to win'

Not for me thanks.

I want peace to prevail and the suffering on both sides to stop immediately, there will never be a solution until a fair peace solution for both sides is on the table.

His comments on winning was crap.

Me​

Yes I do want Israel to beat Hamas.

 

[Roy Bloom]

“repeated shelling”

does not mean

”frequently destroyed”


Thank you for providing yet another example pf you struggling with the English language….did you ever study English comprehension, perhaps you might consider a refresher course.

What do you think repeated shelling does to buildings and its occupants? Buildings which are obviously very much part of the civilian infrastructure. The occupants of the buildinbgs were civilians.
Do you think Israel send over a shell that scatters glitter?

 

[Deleted member 294929]

His own brother proclaimed his book as being a pack of lies.

Would his Brother be a member of Hamas?