J D Vance. Munich speech.

[noseall]

Who here, believes Russia should have been allowed to supply natural gas via NordStream direct to Germany?

Why don't you start a thread discussing Germany's gas imports, as you seem fixated on it.

Meanwhile, what has Germany got to do with Pootin invading Ukraine?

 

[denso13]

Who here, believes Russia should have been allowed to supply natural gas via NordStream direct to Germany?

Why shouldn't they? What point are you trying to make?

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Why did a Ukranian diver blow up NordStream?

 

[denso13]

Why did a Ukranian diver blow up NordStream?

Why all the questions? Can you not just say what you think?

 

[blup]

Why did a Ukranian diver blow up NordStream?

To me that is full blown Russsian conspiracy theory ******

 

[Deleted member 265726]

To me that is full blown Russsian conspiracy theory ******

Nord Stream: German arrest warrant for sabotage blast suspect

The suspect, a Ukrainian diving instructor, had gone when Polish police tried to arrest him in July.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[denso13]

So what?

 

[fillyboy]

Nord Stream: German arrest warrant for sabotage blast suspect

The suspect, a Ukrainian diving instructor, had gone when Polish police tried to arrest him in July.

www.bbc.co.uk

I remember that. They still haven't found them? strange.

 

[denso13]

So, someone blew up a gas pipeline 7 months after Pootin invaded Ukraine? Cool...

 

[blup]

Nord Stream: German arrest warrant for sabotage blast suspect

The suspect, a Ukrainian diving instructor, had gone when Polish police tried to arrest him in July.

www.bbc.co.uk

You would expect the narrative to develop to suit the propaganda. Who are you with, the British public or Trumpf and Pootin?

 

[Deleted member 265726]

You would expect the narrative to develop to suit the propaganda. Who are you with, the British public or Trumpf and Pootin?

I'm not with you on this. I've made my argument clear throughout. You think it is all about taking a side and I have tried to show, it isn't as simple as that. Trump is seeking to end the war between Russia and Ukraine and of course enjoy some of the spoils, your idea of carrying it on for at least another 10 years says you give less of a feck about the Ukranians than you make out. Russia can only be kept at bay, we cannot make them our enemy without risking WW3, which you appear to be up for. Give your head a wobble.

 

[denso13]

I've made my argument clear throughout.

What is the significance of the pipeline explosion?

 

[noseall]

I've made my argument clear throughout.

Not even close. No one knows what you are on about.

You have succeeded in waffling about gas supplies to Germany and have attempted being clever with your cryptic crap, delivering incoherent bollax, Ted Rogers would have been proud of.

 

[blup]

I'm not with you on this. I've made my argument clear throughout. You think it is all about taking a side and I have tried to show, it isn't as simple as that.

It is.

Trump is seeking to end the war between Russia and Ukraine and of course enjoy some of the spoils,

He is asking Pootin how high he wants him to jump

your idea of carrying it on for at least another 10 years says you give less of a feck about the Ukranians than you make out.

Complete capitulation is not ending a war, it's one step removed from appeasement.

Russia can only be kept at bay, we cannot make them our enemy without risking WW3, which you appear to be up for.

That was the argument at the outset of the war, it was proved wrong.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I'm not with you on this. I've made my argument clear throughout. You think it is all about taking a side and I have tried to show, it isn't as simple as that. Trump is seeking to end the war between Russia and Ukraine and of course enjoy some of the spoils, your idea of carrying it on for at least another 10 years says you give less of a feck about the Ukranians than you make out. Russia can only be kept at bay, we cannot make them our enemy without risking WW3, which you appear to be up for. Give your head a wobble.

More conflation.

You're good at that. Deliberate ?