J D Vance. Munich speech.

[Deleted member 265726]

It is.

He is asking Pootin how high he wants him to jump

Complete capitulation is not ending a war, it's one step removed from appeasement.

That was the argument at the outset of the war, it was proved wrong.

OK General Blup, lay out your strategy for war with Russia.

 

[Highway Man]

If we are going to send troops to Ukraine, the Ukraine army will have to supply us with weapons as we haven’t got any left.

 

[Notch7]

OK General Blup, lay out your strategy for war with Russia.

We just the forker to get his ass out of Ukraine.

We can use oligarch seized assets

Putin can’t sell enough oil n gas so he can’t fuel his rusty tanks much.

 

[Notch7]

If we are going to send troops to Ukraine, the Ukraine army will have to supply us with weapons as we haven’t got any left.

We have plenty thanks.

 

[Highway Man]

We have plenty thanks.

Odd that because we have sent tanks, planes, ammunition to Ukraine and left ourselves short. That was on the news. You obviously know different

 

[Deleted member 265726]

Armed forces recruitment falls short of targets

The Royal Navy met 60% of its target, while the British Army achieved around 63%, and the RAF saw the highest proportion of recruits relative to target, reaching 70% of its goal.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

 

[Notch7]

Odd that because we have sent tanks, planes, ammunition to Ukraine and left ourselves short. That was on the news. You obviously know different

We haven’t sent any current gear, it was all old stock.

The problem with Ukraine is it been a WW2 style war of attrition with huge numbers of artillery shells.

Modern NATO style war strategy is largely air superiority and longe range missiles like Tomahawks

 

[Notch7]

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Armed forces recruitment falls short of targets

The Royal Navy met 60% of its target, while the British Army achieved around 63%, and the RAF saw the highest proportion of recruits relative to target, reaching 70% of its goal.

ukdefencejournal.org.uk

That’s recruitment not actual numbers in service.

Anyway that’s still better than Russian army of rusty tanks and farm labourers

 

[Highway Man]

That’s recruitment not actual numbers in service.

Anyway that’s still better than Russian army of rusty tanks and farm labourers

Well risking sounding argumentative I disagree. Russia has some very advanced military equipment.

 

[blup]

OK General Blup, lay out your strategy for war with Russia.

We're not at war with them. But it is incredibly naive to think that by giving Pootin everything he wants, the west and Europe will be safe. Has the penny dropped yet?

 

[Deleted member 265726]

We're not at war with them. But it is incredibly naive to think that by giving Pootin everything he wants, the west and Europe will be safe. Has the penny dropped yet?

I can't work out what it is you want. Do you know?

 

[fillyboy]

We're not at war with them. But it is incredibly naive to think that by giving Pootin everything he wants, the west and Europe will be safe. Has the penny dropped yet?

There will be concessions from both sides, and security guarantees from both sides. That's all we know ATM., and that's a lot closer to a 'solution' then we were a few months ago.
Not sure why so many on here have a problem with that.

 

[denso13]

There will be concessions from both sides, and security guarantees from both sides. That's all we know ATM., and that's a lot closer to a 'solution' then we were a few months ago.
Not sure why so many on here have a problem with that.

Pootin is the aggressor, why should get any concessions or guarantees on limiting Ukraine's ambitions.? Oh, yes, Trump...

 

[fillyboy]

Pootin is the aggressor, why should get any concessions or guarantees on limiting Ukraine's ambitions.? Oh, yes, Trump...

What are Ukraine's ambitions and what's been offered?

 

[denso13]

What are Ukraine's ambitions and what's been offered?

To join NATO. Pootin is against it so Trump falls into line.