Kitchen lighting ideas?

[aveatry]

How does having a frame make it any easier (less invasive) to install the wiring (which is the main work-generating issue)? You surely aren't suggesting wiring in surface-mounted trunking, are you?

As Murdo has reminded us,the big problem is the lack of availability of units with replaceable light-generating parts - and, quite apart from the 'waste', by the time one needs to replace the whole thing, one will often be hard-pressed to find one with the same shape/size/appearance/fixing method (and obviously even more of a problem, and expense/waste, if there are more than one of them which should look the same)>.

No just one big one in the middle of the room 1200 x600 - forget the frame I was just looking for the type of panel light I was thinking of. If it fails then get another 1200 x 600 one the fixing positions may well be different but the old ones will be hidden by the panel.

 

[JohnW2]

... forget the frame I was just looking for the type of panel light I was thinking of.

Fair enough. That's obviously the sort of thing I have also been considering.

If it fails then get another 1200 x 600 one the fixing positions may well be different but the old ones will be hidden by the panel.

Unless it's factionally smaller or a slightly different shape!

However, as I said, the real problem with these things arises if one has more than one - since, if one has to throw one entire fitting away and replace it, one will often have to also throw away all the other (working) ones, if one wants them to all look identical

 

[pete01]

If you go down this route don’t fit sealed led units

The sealed ones give out a better light I think

 

[aveatry]

Fair enough. That's obviously the sort of thing I have also been considering.

Unless it's factionally smaller or a slightly different shape!

However, as I said, the real problem with these things arises if one has more than one - since, if one has to throw one entire fitting away and replace it, one will often have to also throw away all the other (working) ones, if one wants them to all look identical

One would make ones post easier to read if one would not use so may ones

 

[JohnW2]

The sealed ones give out a better light I think

I wouldn't care if that were true - any more than I would care if braking performance of a car was better with non-replaceable brake pads

 

[JohnW2]

One would make ones post easier to read if one would not use so may ones

Would you prefer "you"s ?

 

[blup]

Interesting. Not very long ago any mention of downlights here would trigger WW3

Haven’t the two chief protagonists left the forum?

 

[JohnW2]

Haven’t the two chief protagonists left the forum?

Maybe, but there used to be a lot more than just the two of them.

I'm not sure that I fully understand the reason, but it was true pre-LEDs, and I think still true with LEDs, that people tend to use a much greater total wattage of downlights to illuminate a room than they would use with any other type of lighting.

 

[AndyPRK]

Yeah I am liking the panel lights from
Www.lights.co.uk

16% off at present. Common to have 13% off offers

Got 4 of them now. Over 3 rooms.

First 2 purchased in 2021

When replacing 6ft tubes I did have to make the plaster look tidy on the ends.

Light output is great. Can’t believe the spread of light. I was very sceptical to start with.

I would recommend a connector for the cable. I used the blue click ones.

Can be a bit “fun” sliding the light onto the bracket. Sometimes you need to undo the mounting bracket screws half a turn.

I even replaced a 200w? Heat lamp with one and the led light gives more light!

I wouldn’t worry about mismatches.
If ceiling light is high enough you won’t notice.
Or buy 2 replacements for when the 2nd fails.

 

[blup]

One would make ones post easier to read if one would not use so may ones

You would doubtless get wound up by the announcement of flight 2222 to Toulouse.

 

[aveatry]

Yeah I am liking the panel lights from
Www.lights.co.uk

16% off at present. Common to have 13% off offers

Got 4 of them now. Over 3 rooms.

First 2 purchased in 2021

When replacing 6ft tubes I did have to make the plaster look tidy on the ends.

Light output is great. Can’t believe the spread of light. I was very sceptical to start with.

I would recommend a connector for the cable. I used the blue click ones.

Can be a bit “fun” sliding the light onto the bracket. Sometimes you need to undo the mounting bracket screws half a turn.

I even replaced a 200w? Heat lamp with one and the led light gives more light!

I wouldn’t worry about mismatches.
If ceiling light is high enough you won’t notice.
Or buy 2 replacements for when the 2nd fails.

+ 1 for the blue click connectors only a 40mm hole needed if I remember right

 

[StephenStephen]

If you have wall cupboards above work surfaces, then LED strips under the cupboards at the front, work really well in our kitchen.
We've also run LED strips around the wall-ceiling meeting place to replace downlighters, which replaces the fluorescent strips really well.

 

[JohnW2]

If you have wall cupboards above work surfaces, then LED strips under the cupboards at the front, work really well in our kitchen.

Yes, I've see that done quite effectively. However, I doubt that I'm going to end up with (m)any wall cupboards (more likely a 'country kitchen'), not thee least because all walls are festooned with windows, door and alcoves etc.!

We've also run LED strips around the wall-ceiling meeting place to replace downlighters, which replaces the fluorescent strips really well.

One certainly needs some light 'up there' somewhere - to only have under-cupboard lights (if one has cupboards!) would be a little weird!

 

[AndyPRK]

Didn’t need to drill hole for click connector as they fit between light and ceiling in my case

 

[aveatry]

Didn’t need to drill hole for click connector as they fit between light and ceiling in my case

I had very slim surface mounted mounted LED panel lights but yes they are nice and small to use