Lamps or bulbs
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Historical the lamp fitted onto a spigot either on wall or carriage it was refuelled remote from where used and was placed in position as and when required.
In auto electrical as a result if you ask for a head lamp you will get the assembly likely without the luminaire.
So lamp refers to all but the spigot. The only place the spigot has remained is on push bikes and of course we all realise a cycle lamp refers to whole item.
The word bulb refers to the shape and the bulbous piece of glass originally evacuated over the filament is why it was so called. From this we can see where tube comes from.
Electrically a tube is not a form of rail transport and neither is a bulb something which goes in the ground and to make statements of that nature is of course silly.
How ever with new shapes the term bulb or tube does not really work and so the term luminaire is often used.
In general the whole idea of English is to be understood and there is far less ambiguity in the word bulb and fitting then there is in the word lamp so in the main I try to avoid the word lamp as it is seen as so many different things by different groups of people.
Even where bulb does not really describe the item as with a GU10 luminaire the word bulb leaves far less chance of being miss understood so I would think it is the better word.
The point is to make others understand what you are saying and to include any jargon is counter productive.
Of course there are other words derived from shape like "Globe" and in some parts of the world this is used.
I am an electrician not a gardener and to ever claim I though someone is referring to the garden when talking professionally to me is got to be taking the Mick. And frankly rather childish. We are supposed to take notice of manufactures and they can round luminaire a bulb so we should do the same.
In auto electrical as a result if you ask for a head lamp you will get the assembly likely without the luminaire.
So lamp refers to all but the spigot. The only place the spigot has remained is on push bikes and of course we all realise a cycle lamp refers to whole item.
The word bulb refers to the shape and the bulbous piece of glass originally evacuated over the filament is why it was so called. From this we can see where tube comes from.
Electrically a tube is not a form of rail transport and neither is a bulb something which goes in the ground and to make statements of that nature is of course silly.
How ever with new shapes the term bulb or tube does not really work and so the term luminaire is often used.
In general the whole idea of English is to be understood and there is far less ambiguity in the word bulb and fitting then there is in the word lamp so in the main I try to avoid the word lamp as it is seen as so many different things by different groups of people.
Even where bulb does not really describe the item as with a GU10 luminaire the word bulb leaves far less chance of being miss understood so I would think it is the better word.
The point is to make others understand what you are saying and to include any jargon is counter productive.
Of course there are other words derived from shape like "Globe" and in some parts of the world this is used.
I am an electrician not a gardener and to ever claim I though someone is referring to the garden when talking professionally to me is got to be taking the Mick. And frankly rather childish. We are supposed to take notice of manufactures and they can round luminaire a bulb so we should do the same.
Luminare is the fitting. Lamp is the bit you put in it that lights up.
Bulb is the outler glass bit forming part of a GLS type lamp.
Bulb is the outler glass bit forming part of a GLS type lamp.
A
Atilla
light lamp - doesnt sound right
Don't call it that then.
Call it a 60W lamp for example. That doesn't sound wrong.
Call it a 60W lamp for example. That doesn't sound wrong.
A
Atilla
we say a lamp goes in a 500W halogen flood .............. deffo a regional thing IMO.
From Wikipedia (and you can't argue with that 
)
A light fixture is an electrical device used to create artificial light or illumination.
A luminaire is a lighting fixture complete with the light source or lamp, the reflector for directing the light, an aperture (with or without a lens), the outer shell or housing for lamp alignment and protection, an electrical ballast, if required, and connection to a power source[1]. A wide variety of special light fixtures are created for use in the automotive industry, aerospace, marine and medicine.
BUT..... The definition of a 'Luminaire' in the IEE Wiring Regulations 'Requirements for Electrical Installations' (British Standards) referenced as BS7671:2008 (17th edition), specifically notes that the Luminaire EXCLUDES the lamp itself.
Now stop it or I'll come over there and lamp you one!
)A light fixture is an electrical device used to create artificial light or illumination.
A luminaire is a lighting fixture complete with the light source or lamp, the reflector for directing the light, an aperture (with or without a lens), the outer shell or housing for lamp alignment and protection, an electrical ballast, if required, and connection to a power source[1]. A wide variety of special light fixtures are created for use in the automotive industry, aerospace, marine and medicine.
BUT..... The definition of a 'Luminaire' in the IEE Wiring Regulations 'Requirements for Electrical Installations' (British Standards) referenced as BS7671:2008 (17th edition), specifically notes that the Luminaire EXCLUDES the lamp itself.
Now stop it or I'll come over there and lamp you one!
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vineetkoushik
I call them lamps
Thanks
Lilindo
Thanks
Lilindo
Ahh, weren't we all idealistic and innocent in those days?
and no input from BAS
and no input from BAS
Probably absent for a couple of RED cardsAhh, weren't we all idealistic and innocent in those days?
and no input from BAS
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