Looking for a large (wide) Amd 3 CU

[kai]

On a related note, it's often the home owner who knows his property better than the electrician, it's quirks such as solid first floors, a "server cupboard" somewhere, the dryer being on a separate B16 feed, as it is a higher loading appliance, running for longish periods for lovers of cotton clothing including Jeans, and a Kids room that needs its power sockets fed by a DP "Parental Control" isolator in the Parents bedroom, allowing bedtime to be enforced by the parents. that can influence the number of circuits required.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I'd be happy for suggestions as to what should be on an RCBO.

Then ask the electrician who is going to have to sign a declaration to say that he did the design what suggestions he has.

 

[securespark]

Proteus

 

[Iggifer]

Proteus

But they're made in Britain so it's fine! I did post an apology immediately before linking to it!

 

[PBC_1966]

Then ask the electrician who is going to have to sign a declaration to say that he did the design what suggestions he has.

That's all very well, but there's nothing wrong with getting other opinions and assessing for oneself as well. Some people, while not feeling able or confident enough to actually do the wiring themselves, nevertheless take an interest in what's installed and really do want something which incorporates extra convenience features or goes beyond what an electrician might propose as being the simplest and easiest for him to install.

 

[kai]

If it were my house, I will always insist on a dedicated B16 RCBO for the Freezer Circuit, plus a dedicated B6 RCBO for the Gas Central Heating Controls too.

 

[333rocky333]

Obviously the electrician will select the cheapest option in order to boost his profit margin!

Not one that takes pride in his work

 

[EFLImpudence]

Obviously the electrician will select the cheapest option in order to boost his profit margin!

I do not understand your logic.

Obtaining a good quality £100 product for £80 because of trade discount is going to get you £20 - for going to get it.

Telling the customer that a product is a good quality £100 one but is a cheap £30 one is deceit (and is it fraud?).


I've never quite understood product mark-up. The customer is only interested in the final price including the quality of product agreed.
If you have agreed a price of £300 including £100 parts, whether you call it £100 parts and £200 labour or £300 including parts doesn't make much difference.

You could steal the product to boost your profit margin or 'steal' the false cost of it from the customer - either way you are stealing from somewhere.

 

[PBC_1966]

The customer is only interested in the final price including the quality of product agreed. If you have agreed a price of £300 including £100 parts, whether you call it £100 parts and £200 labour or £300 including parts doesn't make much difference.

It was in telecommunications and computers rather than electrical installation, but I used to have one client who sometimes seemed to balk at what I regarded as very reasonable labor charges, I think in part through not realizing exactly how much preparation work went into configuring equipment, programming custom software etc. before I even turned up at the premises to install it.

In the end, I just adopted the practice for that client of setting the labor charges somewhat lower and making up the difference by bumping up the invoiced cost for the main hardware and other materials. Result: Client seemed perfectly happy with the total price, and I always ended up with the profit I set out to make in the first place.

 

[newconnection]

This is quite simple.

I have agreed a labour only price for the electrician which he is happy with - he knows what work is required and that I will purchase whatever is needed in terms of parts. I have also stripped the property completely. This saves him a lot of hassle and quite frankly makes it a **** easy job compared to some. Therefore, I expect him to price the job accordingly. He is also happy for my input and equally, I am happy to take on board his suggestions.

Being realistic, however, at a minimum, I expect him to do things safely but having dealt with many contractors of all varieties, this does not mean he will necessarily do things in the way that suits me or the future use of the property but rather, whatever is convenient and easy for for him.

It seems that some contractors do not like informed customers. If I am doing a job for someone, I prefer them to be somewhat informed because then I can show them what a great job I am doing and they will understand what I show them (to some degree).

With respect to internet forums and sites such as this, I would hope it's to help each other out and improve standards, otherwise, what the hell is the point of a forum where you are telling people "ask your electrician", "ask your mechanic", "ask your plumber"?

 

[kai]

Usually only a schoolkid would say "Ask your electrician" etc... A grown up adult, or more mature person would normally keep quiet regarding "ask your electrician" in places like this, to put it bluntly, it is considered offensive by most decent people, and is worse than writing in all capitals. please take note.

 

[RF Lighting]

Because we get your sort on here week in week out. This is a DIY forum, not a free design service for complex electrical installations, which none of us has seen, so there can be no other answer other than to ask your electrician. He's the one person with both the technical knowledge, and who has seen the site and the drawings for the job.

Every job is different. There's no magic answer to "I've got x and y and some other constraint specific to my site which I can't tell you about. What sort of thing is best to use"

Why not phone a mechanic and say "I'm building a car, what sort of brakes should I use?"

 

[JohnW2]

If it were my house, I will always insist on a dedicated B16 RCBO for the Freezer Circuit ....

There's obviously a theoretical argument for that, but I do wonder whether this issue is overplayed. Maybe I've just been lucky, but in the 50 or so years I've lived in houses with freezers (most of time in houses with more than one freezer), I have never experienced or witnessed freezer contents being lost as a result of failure of power. The only (very few) problems have been due to failure of the freezer itself, which no protective device can prevent!

Do I take it that others have been far less 'lucky' than me?

Kind Regards, John

 

[newconnection]

Because we get your sort on here week in week out. This is a DIY forum, not a free design service for complex electrical installations, which none of us has seen, so there can be no other answer other than to ask your electrician. He's the one person with both the technical knowledge, and who has seen the site and the drawings for the job.

Every job is different. There's no magic answer to "I've got x and y and some other constraint specific to my site which I can't tell you about. What sort of thing is best to use"

Why not phone a mechanic and say "I'm building a car, what sort of brakes should I use?"

Are you that thick that you cannot see it's just a request for some advice and help? I can happily go on a car forum and ask for some advice about how to change a starter motor or wire in a complex engine management system. They don't tell me to go see my mechanic over and over again.

Perhaps you and 'your sort' should refrain from replying to such messages then!

 

[EFLImpudence]

Do I take it that others have been far less 'lucky' than me?

No. I'm the same. No instance of food loss.