Maybe no summer holiday!!!

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

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Seriously though, it proves that lockdown isn't a sustainable way of tackling the problem.

It's worked well for other countries that were on the ball from the get-go.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Just looked at Worldometer & cases seem to be having a sudden surge again.
Gutted.
Greece is getting the highest amount of cases throughout its whole period, France is a basket case, everywhere apart from Spain is on the up again.
(Obviously we aren’t though, we are setting the standard currently)

You mean setting the standard in vaccine nationalisation.
UK has created contracts with vaccine producers to ensure UK desire is met first, even from plants in other countries, and even at the detriment to those other countries.
UK has not exported a single vaccine, and is still importing vaccines.

UK wants to create trade deals with other countries. Yet they demonstrate that they are incapable of honouring agreements within a couple of months of agreeing them, and even look to break those agreements before they've been signed.
They have contracts with UK companies that will restrict exports.

At this rate UK will become a pariah state. The will be lucky to get the EU trade deal ratified at all at this rate.

Yep, setting the standard, for sure, the race to the bottom, as prescribed.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

The EU will make life awkward due to Brexit, but many of there countries will gag for our tourism cash.

Brexit has made life awkward. It's what you wanted, and now you're blaming everyone else.
Typical Brexiteer.

 

[sooey]

Post moved over to Astra Zeneca

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I'm sure Bobby would put you up.....................

That's where we were going. He invited us over.

Is it a big bridge he lives under?

There's the pig house. We haven't started on that yet.
It's a three berth. Very spacious for pigs, and could be described as rustic, without any mod cons, although there is a light.
Sadly wifi doesn't reach that far, so you'd be well insulated......from world affairs.

 

[Bodd]

There's the pig house. We haven't started on that yet.
It's a three berth. Very spacious for pigs, and could be described as rustic, without any mod cons, although there is a light.
Sadly wifi doesn't reach that far, so you'd be well insulated......from world affairs.

I have children

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I have children

OK, I'll get a wifi extender.

 

[Bodd]

OK, I'll get a wifi extender.

Your a cruel man

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Your a cruel man

Only to uninvited guests.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Why Portugal with only a 10,000,000 population, let's say France.

Erm - cos I live there.

If you think the two countries cannot be compared then why are the figures so alike?

 

[Notch7]

Aren't all cases down by such a number?

this Scottish study indicates the hospitalisation risk is reduced massively -they were comparing with those not vaccinated.



Four weeks after receiving the initial dose, the Oxford jab appeared to reduce a person's risk of hospital admission by 94%.

Those who received the Pfizer jab had a reduction in risk of 85% between 28 and 34 days after the first dose.
Data for the two jabs combined showed that among people over the age of 80 - who are at high risk of severe disease - the reduction in risk of hospital admission was 81% four weeks after the first dose

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...l-admissions-in-scotland-study-shows-12225532

 

[Trazor]

If you think the two countries cannot be compared then why are the figures so alike?

Only when you compare all 195 countries in the World will you have valid data.

You chose just 2 which fitted your narrative.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Only when you compare all 195 countries in the World will you have valid data.
You chose just 2 which fitted your narrative.

Well, one I live in and one I used to and where the forum is.

Totally unreasonable of me.



It was because Notch said the dropping figures in the UK were because of the vaccinations.

The graph is similar in Spain. France is oddly horizontal.



Let's have a look at Viet Nam.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Let's have a look at Viet Nam.

A far more rigorous lockdown and border controls.

 

[motorbiking]

I think it’s really hard to compare countries. Different levels of testing, healthcare, climate, demographic etc etc.

we should remember the objective of lockdown was to reduce pressure on NHS to avoid lives being lost due to an inability to give care. It was never going eradicate the virus.