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Anyone who knows any benefit recipients will be aware that they have been paid a bonus of over £300 in the past few days, with more to come. I'm sure that many of them need it, what with all the price increases, but I'm sure many of them don't need it and don't deserve it because they are scroungers. I'm also sure that this is money created out of thin air and that it will only make prices, for all of us, increase further. What a bunch of stupid tvvats this government is.
 
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Funny that you are complaining about the pittance intended for the poor.

It's nothing compared to Johnson's imaginary £350 million a week vote winner.

You are seeing a twig on the Conservative Money Tree.

Trying to buy popularity and votes.

As the FT said today,



https://www.ft.com/content/6ae1d72f-41e3-46ad-be96-1fe9a5e57f84

"The Conservative party’s contest to replace Boris Johnson as prime minister has an air of fantasy. Listening to the candidates, you would not know that spiralling energy costs are causing misery to households, and inflation is now broadening to most goods and services. Or that simmering disputes over pay and conditions promise a prolonged period of industrial unrest. You certainly would hear little about the UK’s longer term challenge of sluggish growth, made worse by poor planning regulations and the exit from the EU.

"Instead, the candidates are competing largely on a single issue of if and when they will cut taxes. One reason the internal debate refuses to recognise the reality of Britain is the early success of Rishi Sunak. The former chancellor, in post during the pandemic, quickly gathered a lot of endorsements from Conservative MPs. Promises of immediate tax cuts are a way for Sunak’s opponents to remind Tory members that he has been a tax-raising chancellor. Although his record is far from perfect he has at least been a rare voice of realism as far as fiscal policy is concerned.

"Whoever emerges as the next prime minister will have serious political and economic constraints. UK voters’ strong endorsement of Johnson in 2019 came, in part, due to the Conservatives’ promises of more money for the country’s schools, hospitals and the police. Those commitments cannot easily be put aside or forgotten, and Conservative politicians must recognise that, ultimately, an appetite to spend must be balanced with a willingness to tax."
 
The party of reckless lies....




https://www.ft.com/content/233b692e-39be-4175-90e3-1253418203b0

"Liz Truss, a leading candidate in the race to replace Boris Johnson as UK prime minister, has issued tax cut pledges equivalent to over £30bn a year, prompting accusations of fiscal irresponsibility.

"Speaking during an online hustings on Friday afternoon involving the five contenders to become Conservative party leader, the foreign secretary said she would cancel a planned 6p rise in corporation tax worth £17bn a year designed to plug the post-Covid black hole in Britain’s finances.

"Truss added she would abolish a £12bn increase in national insurance contributions designed to fund health and social care services, describing it as a “mistake”. “I think it’s even more of a mistake now where we are facing such strong economic headwinds,” she said.

"She also promised to lift the green energy levy imposed on consumers’ bills for two years at a cost of £4.2bn, cutting £153 a year from each bill. “We immediately need to start putting money back into people’s pockets,” Truss said.
 
Anyone who knows any benefit recipients will be aware that they have been paid a bonus of over £300 in the past few days, with more to come. I'm sure that many of them need it, what with all the price increases, but I'm sure many of them don't need it and don't deserve it because they are scroungers. I'm also sure that this is money created out of thin air and that it will only make prices, for all of us, increase further. What a bunch of stupid tvvats this government is.
only people on means tested benefits will get the £325 the wording off the statement they used to send out used words like"the government says you need xxx amount to live on this is made up off xxx for housing xxx because you have a child xxx because you are married "
now this was perhaps 20 years ago now then benefits although poor where better than the perhaps 10-25% less in real terms now when you include inflation the bedroom tax the 2 child maximum and the benefits cap
now after years of austerity virtually no one on means tested can make end meet never mind accommodate a doubling to trebelling off energy within a year
 
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Politicians will say anything to get votes.
Anyone who thinks that will change with the departure of Boris are in for a disappointment.
 
Paying the £650 (going up to 1200 iirc) to those on Universal Credit is surely more focused than reducing taxes.
UC isn't generous enough to have many who "don't need it".
Winter fuel payments though, go to all pensioners. Giving £500 to a couple who've got their pensions sorted so on say £50kpa, is silly, isn't it???
 
Politicians will say anything to get votes.
Anyone who thinks that will change with the departure of Boris are in for a disappointment.

There is a body of opinion that the dishonesty of the Johnson reign damages the country, and the political party that enthusiastically espouses it. Not all voters consider this acceptable.
 
I'm sure that many of them need it, what with all the price increases, but I'm sure many of them don't need it and don't deserve it because they are scroungers.
Some even boast about taking holidays on taxpayer handouts that they don't need...

Bloody spivs!

I'm also sure that this is money created out of thin air and that it will only make prices, for all of us, increase further.
Printing money always has one main effect...

Inflation!

What a bunch of stupid tvvats this government is.
No, they're not 'stupid'...

They know that the only way out of debt (whilst helping out their mates and themselves) is to allow inflation/recession to happen before fleecing even more people for their hard earned readies...

Twas ever thus, but the stupid lot are those who continue to vote in a succession of corrupt governments populated by a 'ruling elite'!
 
Twas ever thus, but the stupid lot are those who continue to vote in a succession of corrupt governments populated by a 'ruling elite'!
Twasn't. Prices of goods rose very little throughout the entire 1800s, when we were able to make our own stuff, behave ourselves, control our borders and had no bottomless pit free handout institutions such as the NHS or the welfare state.
 
You and Notch?
Some even boast about taking holidays on taxpayer handouts that they don't need...

Bloody spivs!


Printing money always has one main effect...

Inflation!


No, they're not 'stupid'...

They know that the only way out of debt (whilst helping out their mates and themselves) is to allow inflation/recession to happen before fleecing even more people for their hard earned readies...

Twas ever thus, but the stupid lot are those who continue to vote in a succession of corrupt governments populated by a 'ruling elite'!
inaccurate twaddles no one on genuine means tested benefits will ever have enough for a holiday in the relaxed meaning ??
perhaps a freind or family donating at cost a caravan on the coast but nothing requiring more than a few quid from from normal resorces will ever be possible
 
Twasn't. Prices of goods rose very little throughout the entire 1800s, when we were able to make our own stuff, behave ourselves, control our borders and had no bottomless pit free handout institutions such as the NHS or the welfare state.
Rule Britannia! The colonial days are alive and well in this one. Perhaps it had something to do with the cheap labour we benefitted from both home and abroad especially those slaves in India, Africa and pretty much a quarter of the globe.

1800's lol. FFS :rolleyes:
 
Rule Britannia! The colonial days are alive and well in this one. Perhaps it had something to do with the cheap labour we benefitted from both home and abroad especially those slaves in India, Africa and pretty much a quarter of the globe.

1800's lol. FFS :rolleyes:
As well as under cutting Indian cotton to help GB spread its own goods around the world. Starting two wars with China to flood their country with opium, undermine the society and construct trade enclaves in Shanghai and Hong Kong. Stealing rubber tree seeds to start our own plantations in Malaysia. Selling war materiel to the Confederate slave-owning south during the American Civil War.
I think Andy11 would be quite happy to take labour laws in this country back to 1822 when workers had to use a Mill owners own coin to buy food in the mill owners shops, work a 16 hour day and doff their cap unless they wanted to go to a workhouse.
 
As well as under cutting Indian cotton to help GB spread its own goods around the world. Starting two wars with China to flood their country with opium, undermine the society and construct trade enclaves in Shanghai and Hong Kong. Stealing rubber tree seeds to start our own plantations in Malaysia. Selling war materiel to the Confederate slave-owning south during the American Civil War.
I think Andy11 would be quite happy to take labour laws in this country back to 1822 when workers had to use a Mill owners own coin to buy food in the mill owners shops, work a 16 hour day and doff their cap unless they wanted to go to a workhouse.
There are many colonial relics on this forum petrified of foreigners. They are called Brexers these days. Some are more hideous than others though.
 
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