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Thug policemen jailed for 'deliberate cruelty' to woman, 19, which judge said was 'little short of torture'.

PC Jason Hanvey, 37, attacked 19-year-old Amy Keigher at a police station and threatened to rip her 'f*****g skull off'.

Hanvey grabbed her by the hair and forced her head down on to a desk. He then brought the handcuffs over her head from behind while she sobbed in pain.

In CCTV pictures taken in the police station, he is seen to hold her in that position for more than a minute before ordering the traumatised teenager to beg for mercy by saying: 'Pretty please'.

As he jailed Hanvey for 18 months this afternoon, Judge Anthony Gee QC branded him a common thug and told him he was a disgrace to the police force.

He also jailed a second officer, Sergeant Andrew Kennedy, for 18 months for allowing the attack to happen.

But he reserved his harshest words for Hanvey, who has a previous conviction for hitting a suspect, telling him: 'You were a bullying thug on this occasion. This was deliberate cruelty and quite appalling and inexcusable conduct.

'This was little short of torture. You have brought disgrace upon yourselves and the uniforms you are privileged to wear.'

The incident began in October 2008 when Miss Keigher and Jamie Lee Hall, also now 19, were arrested following an incident in Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester city centre.

Both girls was taken to a police station and were being booked in when the ordeal began.

Shocking CCTV footage shown to the jury showed Miss Keigher being forced face down on to the custody desk with PC Hanvey holding her neck down saying: 'Shut up, get your head down. Move and I"ll rip your f*****g skull off.'

Her arms are then raised above her head while she is searched and the girl can be heard asking him to let go of her.

The damning footage showed Miss Keigher squealing in pain as she is held face down with her arms in the air while fellow officer Sergeant Kennedy, 51, the custody officer, does nothing to stop the incident.

When she pleaded that Hanvey was hurting her, the custody sergeant retorted: 'If you misbehave you will be hurt. It is the technique we are trained to do - hurt.'

It later emerged Hanvey had a history of violence and narrowly escaped being dismissed after punching a prisoner in the face in 1998.
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?

See, thats a deliberately blind view.

The point is the police are the upholders of the law, so they are in a special position and with a special responsibility not to abuse there position. Milkmen are no no such position, so your comparison is utter ******.

MP's shouldnt fiddle there expenses, public accountants shouldnt steal public money, doctors shouldn't sexually molest there female patients, firemen shouldn't commit arson, and policemen shouldnt break the law there supposed to uphold. In the case of policemen, its especially appalling, since a copper can lie through his teeth in court (and frequently do) and the court well almost always believe him.

Get the idea?
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?

See, thats a deliberately blind view.

The point is the police are the upholders of the law, so they are in a special position and with a special responsibility not to abuse there position. Milkmen are no no such position, so your comparison is utter ****.

MP's shouldnt fiddle there expenses, public accountants shouldnt steal public money, doctors shouldn't sexually molest there female patients, firemen shouldn't commit arson, and policemen shouldnt break the law there supposed to uphold. In the case of policemen, its especially appalling, since a copper can lie through his teeth in court (and frequently do) and the court well almost always believe him.

Get the idea?

...and when we make androids, i'm sure that is the case...however we are left with humans...and humans do steal, molest, commit crime and assault.
Convicted police often get a more severe sentence due to the position of trust they hold, which i agree with, but these are just humans, and they don't exactly advertise their short comings at the interview.
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?

What a really stupid analogy.

Police brutality
Thieving milkman.
:rolleyes:
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?

What a really stupid analogy.

Police brutality
Thieving milkman.
:rolleyes:

not really, my point, that you can't label the whole profession because of an individuals case, stands well on both parts of the analogy.
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?

What a really stupid analogy.

Police brutality
Thieving milkman.
:rolleyes:

not really, my point, that you can't label the whole profession because of an individuals case, stands well on both parts of the analogy.

Your thieving milko might be isolated, police brutality/stupidity seems to be a regular occurrence.
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?

What a really stupid analogy.

Police brutality
Thieving milkman.
:rolleyes:

not really, my point, that you can't label the whole profession because of an individuals case, stands well on both parts of the analogy.

Your thieving milko might be isolated, police brutality/stupidity seems to be a regular occurrence.

It might be, it might be that milk men are on the thieve 90% of the time..., however we are both guessing aren't we.

Just don't get why a policeman being convicted for a crime is worth discussing...we know that there is crime in every profession.
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?
Just don't get why a policeman being convicted for a crime is worth discussing...we know that there is crime in every profession.
Oh come on Skitz. I hate to bring it back up but... http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=220590 Singer, isn't exactly a 'looker' but gets recording contract and in the papers quite a lot... and? I think you know where I'm going. The lad posted what he sees as a reasonable discussion point.
 
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Just don't get why a policeman being convicted for a crime is worth discussing...we know that there is crime in every profession.

Because a) its an appalling breach of trust and b) it happens regularly.

The police are the upholders of the law, and have to be squeaky clean and perfectly honest and upright. After all, its hypocrisy to expect us to obey the law if the police dont.
 
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In the ideal world you have a point ??? What did the girl's do ????? as far as I am concerned some of the rubbish tha t the police have to deal with should get a good kicking , some of the rubbish that infest our school's , would be best sorted out with a smack in the mouth !!! the problem is sorting out the rubbish from the innocent ???
 
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Just don't get why a policeman being convicted for a crime is worth discussing...we know that there is crime in every profession.

Because a) its an appalling breach of trust and b) it happens regularly.

The police are the upholders of the law, and have to be squeaky clean and perfectly honest and upright. After all, its hypocrisy to expect us to obey the law if the police dont.

If it happens so regularly why is it still making news?
 
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....policeman that did wrong gets punished...and? There is a milkman round my way that just got done for theft...should I start a new thread "Milk men, scurge of the world!!"...?
Just don't get why a policeman being convicted for a crime is worth discussing...we know that there is crime in every profession.
Oh come on Skitz. I hate to bring it back up but... http://www.diynot.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=220590 Singer, isn't exactly a 'looker' but gets recording contract and in the papers quite a lot... and? I think you know where I'm going. The lad posted what he sees as a reasonable discussion point.

Blas, if this was an off the cuff comment, i'd get it but we have discussed this same thing on like 3-4 other threads.

He seems obsessed with this one subject and the last time he did it he got yawned off.
 
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Because a) its an appalling breach of trust and b) it happens regularly.

The police are the upholders of the law, and have to be squeaky clean and perfectly honest and upright. After all, its hypocrisy to expect us to obey the law if the police dont.

Does that answer your question?
 
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conny";p="1573218 said:
Because a) its an appalling breach of trust and b) it happens regularly.

The police are the upholders of
the law, and have to be squeaky clean and perfectly honest and upright. After all, its hypocrisy to expect us to obey the law if the police dont
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Does that answer your question?

I have already answered this, yes it would be nice if police were infallible...however no human is, no screening process will ever acheive this either.
The important thing is that they are prosecuted if found to be in the wrong...and he was. and
the law, and have to be squeaky clean and perfectly honest and upright. After all, its hypocrisy to expect us to obey the law if the police dont
Yes...it WOULD be hypocrisy, IF the police person wasn't charged....but they were, so no, it isn't.
 
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