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Need a new fire, what type though...?

Discussion in 'Plumbing and Central Heating' started by Colin Brenton, 6 Dec 2019.

  1. Colin Brenton

    Colin Brenton

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    Hi,

    With a recent house purchase, I have inherited an old, knackered, gas fire "Cannon Coalridge category 1N fire (GC# 3213258)".

    I am having major work done on the house, and, as part of this, I am having this fire replaced.

    Basically, I need to know if this is a type 1, type 2, balanced flue... etc etc fire/chimney, so I can buy a suitable replacement fire, can anyone advise please?

    I'm (obviously!) not doing the job myself, I just need to know what to order for my gas engineer to fit.

    Thanks,
    Colin


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  3. 45yearsagasman

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    A wider picture of the fire would help, but by the GC No it may well be an open flued fire fitted in a fire opening.
     
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    as far as I remember the Canon Coalridge was a balanced flue gas fire , is there a terminal on an outside wall behind the fire ?
     
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    Comes in both forms B/f and O/F
     
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  6. Colin Brenton

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    Thanks for the replies, please find some answers below;

    @45yearsagasman no probs, I'll take some wider pictures on Monday and add them here.

    @ianmcd, no, there's no wall mounted terminal, it is connected to the chimney that leads to the roof.

    Thanks to everyone who has responded, but I'm none the wiser, not knowing a lot of the terms being used... B/F (balanced flue I would guess), O/F (??) etc.

    I think for now I'll get some more pictures and add them to the tread.

    Will this do the job?

    https://www.flames.co.uk/fireplace-...ERYeQHAdUDKx5DtJXptVJPWh-OKcWurBoCvzkQAvD_BwE

    This is supplied with either a "Class 1" or "Class 2 fire", so is either suitable? And which one should I order?

    Thanks again,
    Colin
     
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    You would be better to have your gas engineer in to have a look, he should be able to tell you pretty quickly what you need. He may also test the chimney.

    Alternatively it would be advised to have a chimney specialist in to check/sweep and smoke test it. If it's an old Class 1 then the mortar can go porous and would need to be lined and terminal'd/sealed top and bottom properly to ensure it's safe.

    Too much to take a chance with IMO as an open flue'd LFE can kill quite easily.
     
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    Fire selection should not just be a visual thing as lot of these inset fires are quite inefficient. When selecting a fire, look at the heat input and the heat output. 7kW input and 3.5kw output will give you a fire that is 50% efficient.
    Aim for 80%. Outset fires are more efficient, not fashionable, but wipe the slate when compared to fire in your selection
     
  10. Colin Brenton

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    Hi, please find below a couple of pictures of the fire as requested.

    One thing I did notice is that it is not fixed to the wall in any way, and can be lifted away from the wall of the fire-place, outwards into the room...!

    Does the rectangular bit at the back look like a balanced flue - I'm not sure.

    Thanks,
    Colin
     

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    That's an open flued appliance fitted into what appears to be old fire opening. There will be a chimney above it outside on the roof. Only an inspection by a RGI will confirm the flue is ok for a new fire.
     
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  12. Colin Brenton

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    Thanks, yes, I'm going to get my RGI to have a look before buying anything - I may end up with a new electric fire in the end... haha.

    It's a surprise to see it like that though, I would have assumed that the flue should all have been sealed.

    I'll let you know what the outcome is - thanks everyone for the help.

    Cheers,
    Colin
     
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