Need help with Ikea light with no earth

[Mr Shaun allen]

Any help greatly appreciated
I've bought a Ikea death star ceiling light, but it has no earth.
There are 4 wires coming from the ceiling 2 blue neutral, 1 brown live and a earth I've wired the light to the ceiling but it's not working it's not popping the breaker and all the upstairs lights are working fine apart from this one.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Is it the PS 2014? If I have found the right one it is shown as having an earth wire.
If not, what is the model number?

As for not working, that is an unusual number of wires to have. Is there not another brown and another earth somewhere?

 

[Mr Shaun allen]

Hi yeah it's the ps 2014
There's 2 blue
1 brown and a earth

 

[ericmark]

Can only guess, but my guess is two cables both with brown, blue and bare earth and the second brown has popped back into the ceiling space.

 

[Astra99]

I would suspect the Live Loop ( 3 brown wires) are in a choc-block shoved up into the ceiling void! As far as connecting the light is concerned, the brown from the ceiling joins (using a choc-block) to the brown on the light, the two blues from the ceiling join with the blue on the light, and finally, the earth from the ceiling (there should be three, maybe all twisted together) MUST join to the earth on the light, again using a choc-block. (According to the installation instructions, there is an earth wire on this particular light fitting. https://www.ikea.com/ca/en/assembly_instructions/ikea-ps-pendant-lamp__AA-909781-1_pub.pdf
HTH
Edit EricMark beat me to it!

 

[Blueflash]

I would check the bulb !

Dave

 

[Mr Shaun allen]

Thanks for the info appreciated

 

[ban-all-sheds]

There's 2 blue

Which are not necessarily 2 neutral.

• https://www.diynot.com/wiki/Electrics:Lighting
  
  
• http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/House_Wiring_for_Beginners#Lighting
  

 

[Mr Shaun allen]

They went into the neutral on the ceiling rose but I don't know I've not got a tester 1 brown went into live and the 2 blue went into neutral on the ceiling rose and 1 earth any ideas anyone cause the light still isn't working but not popping any fuses.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Try reconnecting the old light.

It's not really possible to offer any help as the wiring as described does not make sense.

 

[Mr Shaun allen]

I've tried that but one of the screws on the ceiling rose got broke
Thanks anyway

 

[Blueflash]

I would stick a plug on the light fitting and check it does work. Can you post a picture of the wiring coming out the ceiling please ?


Dave

 

[Mr Shaun allen]

 

[EFLImpudence]

Right. We will deduce that the neutrals are looped at the ceilings and lines(lives) are looped at the switches.

So - all we can say is that , if all the wires are terminated correctly - difficult not to with that fitting - as you know, it should be working.

Have you done anything to the switch?

You really need a multimeter so that you can test and find out what isn't doing as it should.



Definitely no earth on the light fitting, then, so just terminate the earth wire in a connector block and position it safely so that it doesn't touch anything. I suppose the fitting has a plastic cup at the ceiling.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Examine the bulb holder and make sure the bulb is screwing in far enough to touch the contacts.