elkato ncs by all means i say ar is bit to far
Neighbour requesting I move boiler vent installed pre 2002..
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Wow -
Just read this...
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Just read this...
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Looking at your drawing, at the present time your boiler is discharging into the neighbours property. You have a number of options.
a) attempt to prove the boundry has been mis-aligned.
b) prove you have a covenant in your deeds allowing the flue location.
c) purchase that bit of land and move boundry.
d) move your boiler.
If they insist you will at cost have to move your boiler, regardless how long its been there. It has never been permissable to encroach onto neighbours land/property.
a) attempt to prove the boundry has been mis-aligned.
b) prove you have a covenant in your deeds allowing the flue location.
c) purchase that bit of land and move boundry.
d) move your boiler.
If they insist you will at cost have to move your boiler, regardless how long its been there. It has never been permissable to encroach onto neighbours land/property.
Yes adlplumbing your probably right with NCS but there is clearly more potential danger than if the flue was also NCS but on the other side of the fence. I would still be giving strong advice to have it moved. If it was mine, i'd want to check regularly to make sure the neighbour was not storing his barbecue in front of it.
I can't imagine the neighbours will roll over and accept a boundary change without a fight and I think they've got a good argument in asking the flue to be moved out of their garden. I think you're going to have to move it.
I can't imagine the neighbours will roll over and accept a boundary change without a fight and I think they've got a good argument in asking the flue to be moved out of their garden. I think you're going to have to move it.
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Surely the boiler ( and clock ) are clearly visible indoors through the window?
A photo taken from higher up should show the flue terminal.
I asked the OP where the party wall in the coal bunger was located compared with the fence.
Very unfortunately he did not seem to see the relevanct of this to his situation. Hopefully there is a small chance he will read this and remember to give a reply.
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So who does the Soil/vent pipe belong to then ? if the boundary is wrong, and was the original fence the other side of it ?
From what I am led to believe, if the boundary has been in it's position for over 14 years, then it's legally become your neighbours land.
From what I am led to believe, if the boundary has been in it's position for over 14 years, then it's legally become your neighbours land.
agreed thats why i would recommend a co detector
and they some thing does happen then my back is still covered
Morning chaps,
Regards the inner wall of the coal bunker - I didn't fully answer I think you're right. I put a bit on the post with the pictures.
But yes, the coal bunker is divided into two. And the split between it is, as mentioned, where the fence it. Bah.
Like I said, it could be that the party wall of the house would follow the boundary between the two sides of the coal bunker - which would follow therefore it could be argued that the boundary is actually where the fence is. Which isn't good, of course.
Interestingly someone said 'that boundary fence looks VERY close to the window' - I've never thought of that before, but now I look at it it does look a bit odd.
In view of the way forwards, we're responding with information regarding the boundary contest, but compromising that we're not making any claim to the land. We're also pointing out the within 9 months we'll be starting on an extension on the other side of the house. Even though we had no reason to, we'll move the boiler at this point - as we'll have the finance to do so. At this time, we will be happy to get into a conversation regarding boundary definition, and registration - at which point they'll be able to build on that land, and of course there'll be no flue.
Of course, they may respond with a court order to move the flue (if this is possible) - to be honest I'm not sure what they'll do. Hopefully they'll be happy with land registration and the definitive answer to the land.
Thanks once again for everyone's input - I don't think I could have even approached this without everyones help and very balanced views.
ddm*
Regards the inner wall of the coal bunker - I didn't fully answer I think you're right. I put a bit on the post with the pictures.
But yes, the coal bunker is divided into two. And the split between it is, as mentioned, where the fence it. Bah.
Like I said, it could be that the party wall of the house would follow the boundary between the two sides of the coal bunker - which would follow therefore it could be argued that the boundary is actually where the fence is. Which isn't good, of course.
Interestingly someone said 'that boundary fence looks VERY close to the window' - I've never thought of that before, but now I look at it it does look a bit odd.
In view of the way forwards, we're responding with information regarding the boundary contest, but compromising that we're not making any claim to the land. We're also pointing out the within 9 months we'll be starting on an extension on the other side of the house. Even though we had no reason to, we'll move the boiler at this point - as we'll have the finance to do so. At this time, we will be happy to get into a conversation regarding boundary definition, and registration - at which point they'll be able to build on that land, and of course there'll be no flue.
Of course, they may respond with a court order to move the flue (if this is possible) - to be honest I'm not sure what they'll do. Hopefully they'll be happy with land registration and the definitive answer to the land.
Thanks once again for everyone's input - I don't think I could have even approached this without everyones help and very balanced views.
ddm*
Wow - we once owned a house where the plot was 14 feet wide - so no condensing boiler allowed at all!
You cannot direct a condensing flue towards a boundary when the point of impingement is less than 2500 mm.
But you can direct it DOWN your garden or, if permitted by the makers, upwards towards the sky.
Most current boilers have many options to direct the flue to discharge several meters from the actual terminal.
To the OP.
As the fence is in line with the bunker party wall then I would conclude thats strong evidence thats where the fence is meant to be !
However, even so I would advance the argument that the fence is wrongly located and that it should be down the garden from the kitchen wall and the neighbour should not build on the disputed land.
If they take heed of that argument, ideally in a solicitor's letter, then it might delay any action on their part until you can move the boiler later.
What about your neighbours? Are there any other houses with a similar arrangement? If so what line do their fences follow?
Tony
But you can direct it DOWN your garden or, if permitted by the makers, upwards towards the sky.
Most current boilers have many options to direct the flue to discharge several meters from the actual terminal.
To the OP.
As the fence is in line with the bunker party wall then I would conclude thats strong evidence thats where the fence is meant to be !
However, even so I would advance the argument that the fence is wrongly located and that it should be down the garden from the kitchen wall and the neighbour should not build on the disputed land.
If they take heed of that argument, ideally in a solicitor's letter, then it might delay any action on their part until you can move the boiler later.
What about your neighbours? Are there any other houses with a similar arrangement? If so what line do their fences follow?
Tony
My house has a similar strange dog leg in the kitchen but it also has it on the boundary fence.
IE it follows the party wall line from the kitchen down the garden 6ft then comes back in on its self to line up with the party wall of the rest of the house.
also our elderly neighbours several houses down the street had their boundary fence put up the same as you as it was cheaper and easier to do it in a strait line.
IE it follows the party wall line from the kitchen down the garden 6ft then comes back in on its self to line up with the party wall of the rest of the house.
also our elderly neighbours several houses down the street had their boundary fence put up the same as you as it was cheaper and easier to do it in a strait line.
Funnily enough its the same as the OP runs in line with the fence once it doglegs back in to the garden
No don't think so our house are all brick built town houses
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