Never knew

[transam]

That 180,000 Afro Americans fought for the Union army in the American civil war

mire than 600000 from both sides were killed in said war

 

[fillyboy]

I can understand that many afro americans would have signed up to fight against slavery, they were still subjected to racism from the forces who were freeing them from slavery, but it was a step in the right direction.

 

[transam]

If they were captured they would be executed

any white officer leading them would also be executed

 

[Bosswhite]

The number of people killed in the American Civil war exceeds the total number of people killed in all American Conflicts to date .

 

[AngleEyes]

The number of people killed in the American Civil war exceeds the total number of people killed in all American Conflicts to date .

Possible but difficult to say accurately. I would think it's unlikely.
WW1 approx 120,000
WW2 approx 420,000
Vietnam approx 60,000
Korea approx 40,000

Bay of pigs, Somalia, Gulf War(s), Afghanistan, other Korean expeditions, Philippines, China (Boxer rebellion), Nicaragua, Russian Civil war, Laos, Lebanon, Dominica, Cambodia, Grenada, Libya, Panama, etc, etc.

 

[Deleted member 292770]

Possible but difficult to say accurately. I would think it's unlikely.
WW1 approx 120,000
WW2 approx 420,000
Vietnam approx 60,000
Korea approx 40,000

Bay of pigs, Somalia, Gulf War(s), Afghanistan, other Korean expeditions, Philippines, China (Boxer rebellion), Nicaragua, Russian Civil war, Laos, Lebanon, Dominica, Cambodia, Grenada, Libya, Panama, etc, etc.

any links?

 

[Deleted member 292770]

I would think

Come off it, You? think?

 

[AngleEyes]

any links?

https://www.google.com/search?q=how...19i22i30l5.15490j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Just substitute WW1 in the search criteria, for all the other wars, for further searches.

 

[AngleEyes]

Come off it, You? think?

Yes, those figures were my estimates based on official statistics.
If they had been quotes from those official statistics, I would have presented the information like this:

19. United States The official figures of military war deaths listed by the US Dept. of Defense for the period ending Dec. 31, 1918 are 116,516; which includes 53,402 battle deaths and 63,114 non combat deaths. The US Coast Guard lost an additional 192 dead.." An official 1920 US Quartermaster report reports the total number of registered US graves in France; Great Britain; Belgium, Germany; Luxemburg and Italy as 75,212 {this figure includes remains removed from Europe to the United States} and that as of June 30, 1920 2,217 remains had been removed from Europe to U.S. United States estimated civilian losses include 128 killed on the RMS Lusitania as well as 629 Merchant Marine personnel killed on merchant ships.
http://www.centre-robert-schuman.or...atory notes – World War I casualties – EN.pdf
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Do you see the difference now between opinion and official data supported by links to that official data?

 

[Deleted member 292770]

Yes, those figures were my estimates based on official statistics.
If they had been quotes from those official statistics, I would have presented the information like this:

19. United States The official figures of military war deaths listed by the US Dept. of Defense for the period ending Dec. 31, 1918 are 116,516; which includes 53,402 battle deaths and 63,114 non combat deaths. The US Coast Guard lost an additional 192 dead.." An official 1920 US Quartermaster report reports the total number of registered US graves in France; Great Britain; Belgium, Germany; Luxemburg and Italy as 75,212 {this figure includes remains removed from Europe to the United States} and that as of June 30, 1920 2,217 remains had been removed from Europe to U.S. United States estimated civilian losses include 128 killed on the RMS Lusitania as well as 629 Merchant Marine personnel killed on merchant ships.
http://www.centre-robert-schuman.org/userfiles/files/REPERES – module 1-1-1 - explanatory notes – World War I casualties – EN.pdf
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Do you see the difference now between opinion and official data supported by links to that official data?

Not interested. The point being you were happy and willing ‘to think’
and only provided evidence when prompted.
So not so squeaky clean after all.

 

[transam]

In 1861 Britain threatened war against the Union

The union / Lincoln backed down

in 1862 ?? The union / Lincoln threatened war with Britain

Britain backed down

 

[AngleEyes]

Not interested. The point being you were happy and willing ‘to think’
and only provided evidence when prompted.

Your nonsense claim has already been disputed and disproven in another thread.
And if you were so not interested, why ask for the links?

 

[Odds]

There's a fine film called 'Glory' starring Morgan Freeman and a young Denzel Washington that highlights the brutal racism black American's faced after they enlisted in the Union Army. Their commander was an idealistic white man from a priviliged background who persisted in the beleif they could make an effective fighting unit - and by the end of the film, he had.
I won't spoil the ending if you haven't seen it but it's a real blood n' guts affair.

 

[transam]

There's a fine film called 'Glory' starring Morgan Freeman and a young Denzel Washington that highlights the brutal racism black American's faced after they enlisted in the Union Army. Their commander was an idealistic white man from a priviliged background who persisted in the beleif they could make an effective fighting unit - and by the end of the film, he had.
I won't spoil the ending if you haven't seen it but it's a real blood n' guts affair.

I have seen it

I have my doubts that Afro Americans were actually fully counted in the death count

strange as it seems the first volunteer Afro American regiment
Was for the confederacy not the union side

the confederates never allowed them to take part

( and no I do not have a link )

 

[JP_]

Buffalo Soldiers, maybe that's why they had their own regiments