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[Deleted member 292770]

faith, aversion to alcohol, even possibly reformed alcoholics,

Sounds like another tall story. No reasons to not attend a team building excercise.
Or are you one of those people who every time they socialise they HAVE to drink?

 

[AngleEyes]

No reasons to not attend a team building excercise.

There are lots of reasons to not attend a 'work meeting' in a crowded, noisy, public, smoky bar where the normal rules of work place etiquette may be forgotten, ignored or overlooked.
Even for those that are willing to attend, the unscheduled finish time and/or the journey can be restricting, and if they do attend it might be merely a short token attendance.
If it's designed as a social event it can be successful.
It's an event and atmosphere more suited to groups of like-minded people to enjoy themselves than it is for a 'work based' event.
A team building exercise could easily be set in more amenable surroundings, which would be far more conducive to achieve real objectives, and better target the real beneficiaries, not just the ones that want to attend.

 

[The Samaritan]

There are lots of reasons to not attend a 'work meeting' in a crowded, noisy, public, smoky bar where the normal rules of work place etiquette may be forgotten, ignored or overlooked.
Even for those that are willing to attend, the unscheduled finish time and/or the journey can be restricting, and if they do attend it might be merely a short token attendance.
If it's designed as a social event it can be successful.
It's an event and atmosphere more suited to groups of like-minded people to enjoy themselves than it is for a 'work based' event.
A team building exercise could easily be set in more amenable surroundings, which would be far more conducive to achieve real objectives, and better target the real beneficiaries, not just the ones that want to attend.

Where I work, attending a team meeting is engrained into our contract. Our meetings are a bit like The Apprentice board room and often worse. TBH, I find them a good old LOL until some scum tries to have a go at me.

 

[AngleEyes]

Where I work, attending a team meeting is engrained into our contract. Our meetings are a bit like The Apprentice board room and often worse. TBH, I find them a good old LOL until some scum tries to have a go at me.

Have you considered a 'theoretical/ practical (with examples from other organisations)' paper to your bosses for the sessions to be more constructive, or a suggestion to your bosses for one such session to be an open discussion about the meetings and possible alternatives, or a 360° 'appraisal session' with your bosses? They give you feedback, and you give them feedback.

 

[transam]

Team meeting

Some jumped up term that sounds
Professional

team building so as to increase team moral

basically run by some jumped up fruit cake with a jumped up job title so as to give said fruit cake some type of importance

he would be the team leader

or to put it another way the team
***l end

 

[AngleEyes]

Team meeting

Some jumped up term that sounds
Professional

team building so as to increase team moral

basically run by some jumped up fruit cake with a jumped up job title so as to give said fruit cake some type of importance

he would be the team leader

or to put it another way the team
***l end

Excellent example of the problem with open invitations to social/work meetings, transam.
Only those that want to be part of a team will attend.
Those that think that they're better off as solitary workers won't attend. There's a good chance they won't be part of the team, or they'll be part of a negative team, not only not participating in the collective objectives of the organisation, but even pulling in the wrong direction.

 

[transam]

Blimey you get to ask some one as to what they do for a living and they tell you there job title and

you are none the wiser

some jumped up job title that supposedly gives there job more importance

team leader jeez us wept you get served by team leaders in burger queen or served by an assistant team leader or a team member

or go into a hotel you get served by an assistant manager or an assistant to the assistant manager

get yer windows cleaned by a vision technician

get yer house cleaned by a hygiene specialist

get yer boiler repaired by a combustion engineer

yer wall
Built by brick technician or yer house wall painted by an interior designer

 

[AngleEyes]

Blimey you get to ask some one as to what they do for a living and they tell you there job title and

you are none the wiser

That's not true.
You could tell me you shovel ****e for a living, and I'd know straight away that you were a plumber.

 

[The Samaritan]

Have you considered a 'theoretical/ practical (with examples from other organisations)' paper to your bosses for the sessions to be more constructive, or a suggestion to your bosses for one such session to be an open discussion about the meetings and possible alternatives, or a 360° 'appraisal session' with your bosses? They give you feedback, and you give them feedback.

Not only what you have said but we've had outside, independent intervention and held three away days to pull the team together.
The first day was lacklustre until towards the end. The next two days saw people cry, challenge another to a fight, put up shut up, very direct and at times malicious accusations and excellent slanging matches about 7 times that started off with two little clques then two people almost going hand to hand combat mode.

Ended positively, several people agreed to have "one to ones" with the independent facilitator on hand, they never materialised as people did not want to talk to each other. Now we have a couple of people off sick long term and one has been moved to another office as they claim to be at risk. Covid has helped as many are WFH.

Me and few others in our team of 40+ people don't take BS lying down.

 

[AngleEyes]

Not only what you have said but we've had outside, independent intervention and held three away days to pull the team together.
The first day was lacklustre until towards the end. The next two days saw people cry, challenge another to a fight, put up shut up, very direct and at times malicious accusations and excellent slanging matches about 7 times that started off with two little clques then two people almost going hand to hand combat mode.

Ended positively, several people agreed to have "one to ones" with the independent facilitator on hand, they never materialised as people did not want to talk to each other. Now we have a couple of people off sick long term and one has been moved to another office as they claim to be at risk. Covid has helped as many are WFH.

Me and few others in our team of 40+ people don't take BS lying down.

The sessions didn't stop. I had no jurisdiction to stop them, and they went on into out-of-normal-working hours anyway. The culture deteriorated into something approaching chaos and required many years under new management to retrieve.

Another case of too little too late?

 

[transam]

Yeah team
Building out sourced to some so called expert company

team members have to go on team building week ends

so as to increase there moral

and make them more productive with in the team

 

[The Samaritan]

Yeah team
Building out sourced to some so called expert company

team members have to go on team building week ends

so as to increase there moral

and make them more productive with in the team

The funny thing is that I do not work for a private co, lol.

We became "productive" alright = several days away from the office and two big HR investigations prior to that where almost half of the team was interviewed at least once and several inc me interviewed several times. This all means that the backlogs got bigger.

There are some people that are just plain nasty snakes and are pretend friends to the easily led and people like me can't watch, take in unfairness and total BS

 

[AngleEyes]

Yeah team
Building out sourced to some so called expert company

team members have to go on team building week ends

so as to increase there moral

and make them more productive with in the team

Some people have to be kept away from the rest of society because of their moral(s)

 

[transam]

The country is drowning in pencil pushers and paper shufflers

dreaming up some new reg ? So as to justify there pointless job

I bet that ignored member works in some type of pointless vocation
With a jumped up job title

if the fruit cake ( ignored member) told you what he did u would be none the wiser

 

[noseall]

Some jumped up term that sounds
Professional

team building so as to increase team moral

basically run by some jumped up fruit cake with a jumped up job title so as to give said fruit cake some type of importance

he would be the team leader

or to put it another way the team
***l end

Sounds like a Tory gathering.