Nissan

[ajohn]

Peugeot were making here long ago. An uncle of mine worked for them. Not sure now but think they still do.

Nissan have mentioned pulling out of the UK. Toyota have been quiet, or I haven't heard any comments. BMW have an engine factory and the mini.That may go at some point if the trade deal doesn't work out, same for the others. This happens when companies decide to stop investing in new plant. Then there is Honda.

We do export cars but I have always had the impression that models made here are ones that will sell in numbers in the UK but exports will still matter.

Manufacturing investment? Big name UK manufacturers stopped that in the very early 70's / very late 60's. Some shifted the actual making elsewhere not long after - labour rates. Some and a fair number of smaller ones weren't really up to what they did efficiently so just went - mostly the same reason, lack of investment / also abilities in some cases. Crap products and not keeping up.

For some reason here gov seldom bails any of them out where as others do.

 

[durhamplumber]

wrong

Im just telling you the facts -you cant accept them, not my fault you are too weak to accept responsibility for your actions

go on -you tell me how itll work out if there are 10% tariffs on car exports to EU, bearing in mind 70% of Sunderland production is bound for the EU.

also the UK car manufacture has highly integrated supply chains with Europe -but you don't know all the customs documentation that will be required, so you dont understand, you just voted for 'sovereignty'

Whatever Notch...The result is more jobs for Sunderland..Great for UK....Fill your boots turning that into a negative as usual.

 

[Bodd]

Im just telling you the facts -you cant accept them, not my fault you are too weak to accept responsibility for your actions

Why do you have to be rude?

So theres going to be tariffs on Exports. .... Do you not think Nissan and Renault have thought of that small minor detail?

 

[Notch7]

Whatever Notch...The result is more jobs for Sunderland..Great for UK

wrong -the 'whatever' is that you are supporting more jobs in Sunderland which will come as a result of closer ties to the EU

in which case why dont you argue for staying in the Single Market so the rest of the UKs car trade and other industries can benefit too

 

[Notch7]

Do you not think Nissan and Renault have thought of that small minor detail?

'small minor detail'

yes they have thought about it -I doubt if the deal will go ahead if the govt refuse to negotiate a trade deal....Nissan said so earlier this year.

I guess that means you support a closer relationship with the EU -say like staying in the SM or regulatory alignment, then 1,000s of businesses could benefit

 

[durhamplumber]

in which case why dont you argue for staying in the Single Market so the rest of the UKs car trade and other industries can benefit too

Who says it would?

 

[noseall]

Who says it would?

Car manufacturers.

 

[durhamplumber]

Car manufacturers.

Considering the doom merchants were convinced Brexit would signal the end of Nissan UK it contradicts that theory entirely and is great news for Wearside.

 

[EddieM]

Car manufacturers.

It is true most car manufacturers are desperate for a single market, any one will do, just one single solitary market, anywhere.

 

[Brigadier]

If this CV has triggered a "new normal", will it trigger a move away from demonising the car, and a backtracking from mass - transit systems?
Certainly, social distancing and trams, trains, buses, and metros, do not make happy bedfellows.

 

[EddieM]

If this CV has triggered a "new normal", will it trigger a move away from demonising the car, and a backtracking from mass - transit systems?
Certainly, social distancing and trams, trains, buses, and metros, so not make happy bedfellows.

I suppose time will tell, but for those companies that have been able to operate effectively with WFH workers, I'd imagine they will be thinking hard about why they have offices at all anymore.

 

[Brigadier]

I suppose time will tell, but for those companies that have been able to operate effectively with WFH workers, I'd imagine they will be thinking hard about why they have offices at all anymore.

Agree; even our place is questioning it (I spoke with a director this week, and he agreed that the building, with its long, narrow corridors and small offices) can't be made CV-safe with anything like our previous occupancy levels.

Talking with a mate this week too (construction project manager), who said that his top brass have realised their city centre offices (across multiple cities, worldwide) are around three times bigger than they actually need. Working around CV has made them realise that wfh via Teams, Zoom, Skype etc, should be the norm, rather than the exception.

Logically then, there will be lots of (formerly, prime - site) real estate that will be vacated, due to this new way of working. And that is before considering any closures.

 

[noseall]

Brexit

Roll on 2021 eh DP.

 

[EddieM]

I work, I used the word loosely, in IT, there's not many reasons why, assuming workers keep disciplined, we need an office. There are some team cohesion and social issues certainly, but for those who are able to replicate their office desk at home then apart from the issues above, there is no point in our offices.

 

[IT Minion]

I work, I used the word loosely, in IT, there's not many reasons why, assuming workers keep disciplined, we need an office. There are some team cohesion and social issues certainly, but for those who are able to replicate their office desk at home then apart from the issues above, there is no point in our offices.

I too work, sometimes harder than other times, in IT. (I know, it must be a shock)

Teams is good for video conferencing, and you get a lot of the sense of the voices being people when you use webcams. But it is a pain if you're trying to do a workshop with 15 people to gauge non verbal signals. It's always useful being in the same room to see the person who's crossed their arms and has a face like a smacked transam. ( sorry, couldn't resist ) so you can ask why.

There's still a lot of orgs that haven't worked out how to work remotely, which is painful if you're sitting there watching them make all the usual mistakes.