No more hereditary peers

[motorbiking]

The same in most of the nordic countries...

And the UK provides 'grants' and tax exemptions, so no different.

having accommodation and expenses tax free is not the same as it being a public sector funded job.

 

[Odds]

WE rent land from our local Lord, he is a hereditory peer, he has traveled and works as well as running an estate, he is a good well ballanced individual who you can talk to, some years ago I went over to the field one evening to feed the horses, I noticed that the door to the farmhouse which was empty at the time was open so I went in and checked the property for intruders, found no one and no sign of forced entry so phoned estate, Lordy answered, thanked me mucho and came over to secure the property. We get invited to the Christmas do at the castle every year and I get discount on my mooring fees as he ownes part of the estuary, he always says hello if he sees me, a thouroughly nice chap, hope he doesn't get the bums rush.

Does he take a personal interest in your life at all?

 

[blup]

Wtf do we have a legislative chamber which has also been stuffed with religious nutjobs.

The Archbishop of Banterbury isn’t a nut job , a woke feminist maybe.

 

[blup]

Could be worse, in Greece, the church is state funded, by taxes.

And Germany

 

[SPLINE]

Labour has been plugging away at abolishing the Lords and hereditary peers for decades. When the Conservatives have been in power during these times they never reversed any of Labour's meddling, and this is why the two parties are effectively the same. The opposition between them is fake, and it is why the two parties are know as the Uniparty. The ultimate goal is the abolition of Britain and the replacement of its people.

 

[SPLINE]

Could be worse, in Greece, the church is state funded, by taxes.

We have a taxpayer-funded religion in Britain if you haven't noticed!

(islam).

 

[JohnD]

We have a taxpayer-funded religion in Britain if you haven't noticed!

Church of England?

 

[JohnD]

And Germany

Voluntary deductions.

 

[Diver Fred]

I'm not entirely sure that I'm happy with the changes to the 2nd chamber in government. Taking away heredity peers satisfies some as they can be seen as privileged and out of touch but have the whole of the second chamber dependant on the wim and wit of one person - the PM is if anything, I suggest is actually worse.

So with the disenfranchisement of heredity peers I do think the public should be allowed a vote to populate the 2nd chamber. Sadly I think, no matter what happens the UK looses a moderating influence in government.

 

[Brigadier]

So with the disenfranchisement of heredity peers I do think the public should be allowed a vote to populate the 2nd chamber

Why?

The public vote the first lot in, so why would the public voting a second lot in be any different?

Would it not be just "more of the same"?

 

[SPLINE]

the UK looses a moderating influence in government.

It is all part of the long march.

 

[ellal]

Why?

The public vote the first lot in, so why would the public voting a second lot in be any different?

Would it not be just "more of the same"?

How about if the public could vote in second chamber representatives with no party allegiance?

 

[Brigadier]

How about if the public could vote in second chamber representatives with no party allegiance?

How likely would having no allegiance be?

And how would anyone know if the candidate was being truthful anyway?

 

[ellal]

How likely would having no allegiance be?

And how would anyone know if the candidate was being truthful anyway?

Everyone has an allegiance, whether it be to themselves or a political party...

Maybe I should have put it in a different way...

Individual names only on the ballot paper, not linked to a political party...

No party line voting and no party whips in the second chamber...

Who knows, it could also set an example to the rabble that get elected to the main chamber

 

[IT Minion]

Sadly I think, no matter what happens the UK looses a moderating influence in government.

Why do you think these departing peers are a moderating influence?