Old chime wiring help

[jking2]

Hi all,


I have recently purchased the Ring Doorbell Wired. My house already has existing doorbell wiring but that has not been used for the past 5-6 years as I have been using a battery doorbell with a plug-in chime. I have a compatible transformer in my consumer unit as well as a doorbell switch. I am assuming the doorbell switch in my consumer unit is for my transformer. I have opened my chime and can see that the wires have been disconnected by the previous owner so as a result, I am not sure which wire is which. I have attached a photo and would appreciate if someone can help me to bypass the chime and get power to my doorbell.

 

[flameport]

There is nothing to bypass, the old chime isn't connected.

Wiring is the two wires from the transformer to the two terminals on the Ring.

 

[jking2]

There is nothing to bypass, the old chime isn't connected.

Wiring is the two wires from the transformer to the two terminals on the Ring.

I get that it isn’t connected but how do I connect the doorbell by bypassing the chime? Do I just join all 4 wires together?

 

[ericmark]

It seems likely if you separated the two wires marked disconnect these and put one in terminal marked 1 and other in terminal marked 2 it may work. You will need insulation tape around the other pair.

However as shown seems likely may have damaged the transformer if switched on wired as shown.

 

[jking2]

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It seems likely if you separated the two wires marked disconnect these and put one in terminal marked 1 and other in terminal marked 2 it may work. You will need insulation tape around the other pair.

However as shown seems likely may have damaged the transformer if switched on wired as shown.

Thanks I’ll give that a go tomorrow. Won’t I then need to use the jumper cable/wago connectors that came with the Ring doorbell?

 

[flameport]

Do I just join all 4 wires together?

No. That will very likely short out the transformer causing it to overheat and fail.

As there are 2 separate pairs of wires there, it's likely that one pair is from the transformer and the other pair from the old button on the door. In which case it's just connecting the two wires at the door to the Ring.

 

[securespark]

 

[securespark]

I have to say the bit about installing the jumper at the chime is not at all clear.

I take it you need the transformer feed at the bell push position.

The "bell" is your smartphone app.

 

[jking2]

I have to say the bit about installing the jumper at the chime is not at all clear.

I take it you need the transformer feed at the bell push position.

The "bell" is your smartphone app.

I agree about the jumper bit. In ericmark’s suggestion above, do I put the jumper between 1 and 2? If so, I can just join them together and leave out the jumper faff no?

 

[securespark]

If one of those bell cables comes from the transformer to the chime and the other goes from the chime to the push, then isn't it already connected so that there is transformer power at the push?

 

[ericmark]

I will also point out for the chime to work it needs to be installed to start with, what you show is the solenoid and striker no chimes.

 

[Sureitsoff?]

The chimes are the two bits down each side that are metal plates but in the pic look like the sides of the case

 

[jking2]

As Sureitsoff? has pointed out, the black metal plates are the chimes.

So just to be clear, I can just do the connection as suggested by ericmark and that may be enough to get power to the bell? So no need to bother with jumping any wires?

 

[SUNRAY]

If one of those bell cables comes from the transformer to the chime and the other goes from the chime to the push, then isn't it already connected so that there is transformer power at the push?

No. That will very likely short out the transformer causing it to overheat and fail.

As there are 2 separate pairs of wires there, it's likely that one pair is from the transformer and the other pair from the old button on the door. In which case it's just connecting the two wires at the door to the Ring.

There is nothing to bypass, the old chime isn't connected.

Wiring is the two wires from the transformer to the two terminals on the Ring.

Just to be clear I'll confirm you need to do nothing (other than ensure those wires can't short together), it's already done for you.
Personally I'd park them like this but with less copper showing:

 

[jking2]

Just to be clear I'll confirm you need to do nothing (other than ensure those wires can't short together), it's already done for you.
Personally I'd park them like this but with less copper showing:
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If I do it like that, how do I bypass the chime so that the Ring doorbell has power but not the chime?