Our political system, what 'is' the answer?

[morqthana]

But of course legal, working people will be welcome to stay, pay taxes and probably live much happier lives in a country where people don't assume they arrived on a boat.

Why would people assume that?

The truth is that in the year ending June 2025 fewer than 5% of immigrants arrived on small boats.

Why would people assume an immigrant came on a small boat when there's a less than 1 in 20 chance of that being true?

Could it, just maybe, be because their perception has been skewed by being lied to by racists?

 

[morqthana]

Cut the dole. If you haven't paid in you can't take out. They can make their minds up whether to stay or not.

Around 3.6 million people held visas that would usually have an NRPF condition at the end of 2024.
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As of June 2024, there were around 225,000 people in various stages of the asylum system. Asylum seekers have no recourse to public funds in the sense addressed in this briefing...

Nearly 2.6 million migrants in UK without welfare safety net, research finds

Number of people on visas with no right to access welfare rises by over one million in two years

www.independent.co.uk

You were aware of all this?

Or has your perception been skewed by being lied to by racists?

 

[noseall]

Socialism is the path towards communism.

Nonsense.

 

[Odds]

The problem with the system of government we have at present isn't the way democracy works.
The way democracy works has been compromised.

Changing the system of government will have no lasting impact as any new system of government relies on the same kind of people taking office to implement policies they think will produce the desired result in their favour. This erroneous assumption forgets the opposition to the current government will do everything to ensure their policies fail in order for them to take power and implement their policies which they assume to be more effective in solving the country's problems.

Both are wrong.

The system of government can be adapted to suit current problems but must take a more pragmatic, long term approach to solving them. This is currently impossible under the two-party system that adopts a confrontational approach rather than a co-operative one.

The system can be changed.
People do not.

 

[transam]

Apparently there is a new mission

“To run the country for ordinary working people”

The wording Turbo Charged was not used ????

 

[diy_fun_uk]

The system can be changed.
People do not.

I think this is it in a nutshell.

 

[Odds]

I think this is it in a nutshell.

(人間)​

 

[MNW67]

What people are you on about exactly?
Are you unhappy about the number of illegal immigrants gaining unfettered access to this country, the country you live in legally?
Do you think it is wrong/racist/bigoted to be concerned about this recent influx of undesirables?
Take each question one at a time please!

It's not possible to say which people exactly.
Yes, I am unhappy about the number of illegal immigrants.
No, I don't think it is wrong/racist/bigoted to be concerned about illegal immigration.

 

[Odds]

The UK is likely to remain “mired in scandal” this year, Transparency International warned... “This persistent decline is not a temporary blip – it risks becoming a defining feature of our political culture,” said chief executive, Daniel Bruce. “The UK government must demonstrate that it is serious about restoring integrity. That means taking bold action to remove big money from politics, delivering genuinely open government, and ending the cronyism that undermines public trust in our institutions.” the Guardian

 

[JBR]

What people are you on about exactly?
Are you unhappy about the number of illegal immigrants gaining unfettered access to this country, the country you live in legally?
Do you think it is wrong/racist/bigoted to be concerned about this recent influx of undesirables?
Take each question one at a time please!

You didn't ask me, but I agree with both questions. (I think I know the answer to no. 1!)

What is happening right now is an ongoing invasion (supported by both our so-called government and the Frogs).
I can't imagine any other country in the world encouraging such a thing by handing the invaders money, free healthcare, free housing, free protection, etc., etc. It's as if our so-called government is supporting an illegal invasion of our country. If they were in office back in 1940, they would be inviting the Nazis to pop across and take over. Well, I suppose it would have saved many lives.

 

[ellal]

As much as I despise their policies, it is not right to use FPTP to deny them any say in how the country is run.

I agree...

And had there been PR in play when UKIP were around in numbers, they would have had proper representation but the brexit referendum wouldn't have been called.

And as a result no need for 'reform'!

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

The truth about the Fabian Society

It’s a strange feeling finding out that you have been part of a revolutionary group that secretly controls Britain and, er…didn’t realise it

spectator.com

If you wanted to know the truth.

Errrr thanks for the patronising waffle. I'm not paying money to read an article that's written by a member of the secret society it's supposedly describing.

Fabians are in favour of getting into power by promising nice gentle socialism then gradually progressing towards communism. Because if they were honest and promised their true goal then nobody would vote for them.

Starmer's obviously following this path. Banning and control free speech, locking up critics etc. All totally as expected.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Anas Sarwar is sitting today pondering whether he made one of his best, or worst, political moves yesterday.

 

[morqthana]

No, I don't think it is wrong/racist/bigoted to be concerned about illegal immigration.

Not necessarily, no.

But in reality, almost everybody who bangs on about illegal migration is a racist.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

But in reality, almost everybody who bangs on about illegal migration is a racist.

That's a completely ignorant starting point.