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Painting over magnolia

Discussion in 'Decorating and Painting' started by Sud1987, 10 Oct 2019.

  1. Sud1987

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    Hi everyone. My first post here.

    All my walls are painted magnolia. I will be repainting the whole house in different colours. Do I have to paint white over the magnolia before putting the final colour on or can I paint the new final colours straight over the magnolia?

    I will be using very lights colours by dulux easycare including, blue, pink, cream, violet, brown. (first dawn, pretty pink, white violet, jasmine white, Egyptian cotton, melow mocha)
     
  2. securespark

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    Personally, I would probably paint over the mangolia if the colours are so light.

    If you had a dark colour under and wanted to put light on top, I'd be tempted with a couple of coats of white.
     
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    I would be tempted to apply a coat of white matt first when working in the rooms that will have a light colour. To begin with, you are using the Dulux retail paints rather than the superior Dulux Trade paints. I haven't used Dulux retail paint for years but they are often much thinner and require more coats than the Dulux Trade version. Additionally, white paint is way cheaper than mixed colours. Side stepping your own labour time (and the value there of), the white trade paint will be cheaper than an additional coat of the Easycare.

    If you do decide to use white first, please do not buy a cheap white paint. I once made the mistake of buying a 10L tin of white Crown (non trade) emulsion to repaint a customer's white walls. It was rubbish, after 3 coats all of the dark scuff marks that I wanted to eliminate were still visible. I threw away the remaining 9L of paint.

    The blue, pink and brown should be ok straight over the magnolia.
     
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  4. Sud1987

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    Thanks for the detailed reply. I will take your advise and use good quality white first. B&q have an offer on for next 3 weeks 3 for 2 paint. So will take advantage of this. Thanks again.
     
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    That does not make sense and was probably your problem. You have said white walls meaning more than 1 wall and you have said 3 coats of paint. If all that only accounted to 1 litre of paint no wonder you still could see all the dark scuffs.
     
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    Hi lamchamps. Are you saying that standard cheap white matt will be OK to go over magnolia? I wouldnt want to spend too much on expensive white matt?
     
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    Thanks for the incredibly condescending reply. I was trying to touch in imperfections prior to then applying a final coat over the whole wall. As mentioned earlier, I soon r ealised that the paint was rubbish

    But hey, I decorate for a living, what do I know?
     
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    If that’s how you took then that is your problem was not meant like that. It was a genuine concern on what you said. Painting multiple walls with 3 coats and you only used 1 litre, you sure you are a professional? :cautious:

    FYI and not a dig at you personally but doing something for a living does not automatically make you good at it.
     
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    Whilst I accept that I my post might have caused some confusion I cannot see how your reply can be interpreted in any way other than as condescending.
     
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    I agree that the non-trade Crown white emulsion can be absolute rubbish.

    I used three coats of the white to cover some pale blue, and it just wouldn't come close to covering. Useless. Never again.

    Had to use a completely different emulsion to cover it.
     
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    If you are hoping that one coat will suffice, get a better quality white emulsion, if you don't mind applying 3 coats and pretty much paying as much as you would have had you paid for the better quality paint (and spending 3 times longer applying the white) then get the cheap stuff.

    5L of Dulux Trade white matt emulsion at B&Q is £31 (rated 4.5 out of 5 stars), Dulux retail is £16 at the same store (and is rated 2 out of 5).

    Personally I pick up the 7.5L tins which are pretty much always on "special" somewhere. It is currently £26 at B&Q- yeah bonkers, but it works out cheaper than the smaller tin...

    Edit-------- for the sake of clarity, lets assume that you need three coats of the retail Dulux, that works out to 3x£3.20 (=£9.60 per L) Vs £3.47 per L for the trade version. In short the proper paint is nearly 3 times cheaper before you factor in your labour time.

    Granted, you can buy the retail paint cheaper elsewhere- it will still be more expensive option.
     
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    Thank opps. I will definitely stick to good quality paint so labour work is reduced. But I'm still thinking do I really need to paint white over magnolia. I think I might test a spot first. What do you think? It will reduce alot of labour work.
     
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    Sorry, I was editing my post when you replied.

    As I mentioned earlier, I don't know how well the retail paints cover magnolia. It would make sense to do a test area first (applying two coats).

    It has been about 7 years since i had to use dulux retail emulsion. It was a dark pink. To be honest it covered the off white much better than I had anticipated. Two coats were sufficient but a third was needed for the cutting in.
     
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