Pat testing help
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Grizzly,
sorry it wasn't directed at you but JACKC.
Just asked a genuine question in a polite manner and was insulted for my effort.
I'm normally not easily offended but feel I took the bait.
This kind of attitude can put some people off asking a question to which they don't know the answer for fear of being ridiculed or insulted. This in turn can lead them to carry out a task which could ultimately prove dangerous or they don't get something repaired/looked at which could be dangerous
BTW, thanks for the 'sonny' comment. Makes me feel young again!
sorry it wasn't directed at you but JACKC.
Just asked a genuine question in a polite manner and was insulted for my effort.
I'm normally not easily offended but feel I took the bait.
This kind of attitude can put some people off asking a question to which they don't know the answer for fear of being ridiculed or insulted. This in turn can lead them to carry out a task which could ultimately prove dangerous or they don't get something repaired/looked at which could be dangerous
BTW, thanks for the 'sonny' comment. Makes me feel young again!
Before you start calling people numties maybe you should quote the law and not a Code Of Practice.
The Electricity at Work Regulations, The Provision & Use of Work Equipment Regulations and The Health & Safety at Work Regulations make no reference to Portable Appliances or Portable Appliance Testing. There is also no legal requirement to carry out any electrical testing on appliances whether they are portable or not.
Grizzly,
sorry it wasn't directed at you but JACKC.
Just asked a genuine question in a polite manner and was insulted for my effort.
I'm normally not easily offended but feel I took the bait.
This kind of attitude can put some people off asking a question to which they don't know the answer for fear of being ridiculed or insulted. This in turn can lead them to carry out a task which could ultimately prove dangerous or they don't get something repaired/looked at which could be dangerous
BTW, thanks for the 'sonny' comment. Makes me feel young again!
Fair enough.
Glad I could help you regain your lost youth!
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Connie,
apoligies if I effended you, having just logged on, found the comments and reread your post I noticed it was a genuine question and not the usual "Numpty" post stating "its not portable", so doesn't need PAT testing. It does if its connected to a fixed installation, the COP explains it.
Pens, isn't BS7671 a code of practise and not law. EAWR are law and use BS7671 and also the COP for electrical inspection and testing of electrical equipment as a standard. These non regularity guides are used in a court of law when something goes very wrong. I was merely pointing out the statement on page 1 that anything connected to or plugged into a fixed installation needed PAT testing. If you don't work to these guidelines then you are asking for trouble.
apoligies if I effended you, having just logged on, found the comments and reread your post I noticed it was a genuine question and not the usual "Numpty" post stating "its not portable", so doesn't need PAT testing. It does if its connected to a fixed installation, the COP explains it.
Pens, isn't BS7671 a code of practise and not law. EAWR are law and use BS7671 and also the COP for electrical inspection and testing of electrical equipment as a standard. These non regularity guides are used in a court of law when something goes very wrong. I was merely pointing out the statement on page 1 that anything connected to or plugged into a fixed installation needed PAT testing. If you don't work to these guidelines then you are asking for trouble.
BS7671 is a british standard, a recognised standard to work to. It covers fixed wiring, not portable appliances or the actual fixed equipment which will be to another standard.
The EAWR do require systems to be maintained to prevent danger or injury, when equipment is connected to a supply it becomes part of that system.
The EAWR do require systems to be maintained to prevent danger or injury, when equipment is connected to a supply it becomes part of that system.
If that’s what you tell your clients then you are lying to them.
And that would be both lying and scare mongering.
Now if you said that all appliances need to be maintained to prevent danger or injury to comply with the EAWR then you'd be telling the truth.
PAT testing is one form of maintenance can be used to show you are complying with that particular regulation for portable appliances.
To be pedantic - by definition, you cannot portable appliance test anything that isn't portable. However the requirement is still there to maintain it.
You can't just stick something on an FCU and pretend it isn't there anymore!
PAT testing is one form of maintenance can be used to show you are complying with that particular regulation for portable appliances.
To be pedantic - by definition, you cannot portable appliance test anything that isn't portable. However the requirement is still there to maintain it.
You can't just stick something on an FCU and pretend it isn't there anymore!
Absolutely. And there’s a world of difference between a proper maintenance regime based on the risks that a particular piece of electrical equipment poses and the mindless testing of everything with a plug.
IMO it’s not being pedantic. It shows that you understand the requirements of the regulations, unlike most of the people/companies that are selling PAT.
One of my customers has around 23,000 UK employees in one part of their organisation.
That equates to around 18,000 mobile phones each with at least one mains charger. Based on £ 1.00/test I would love to be a fly on the wall when you try and sell your PAT services to their technical engineers who understand the requirements of the EAWR.
I’m sure they would find you a much more appropriate name than Numtey
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