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Out of interest, what are the Labour, LibDems or anyone else's practical alternatives to deal with the price the major oil producing companies sell their product for and the prices the major users are prepared to pay to keep costs high in the capitalist free trade market?


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I have been on loads of trams in Greater Manchester and forgotten to sign out with my card. Never got sent a bill.
 
Go down 'spoons and have a coffee which can be topped up for free. Cheap food, spend all day to save heating and cooking expenses.

I was in one today. A dreadlocked, crusty wannabe rasta type came in with one of those large, insulated food delivery type boxes on his back. Went to the bar and ordered a glass of tap water. Sat down and plugged his phone into a socket.

Ungrateful freeloader didn't even take his glass back to the bar when he finished. :evil:
 
Out of interest, what are the Labour, LibDems or anyone else's practical alternatives to deal with the price the major oil producing companies sell their product for and the prices the major users are prepared to pay to keep costs high in the capitalist free trade market?

Not sure what their alternatives are, they aren't in power currently to be able to do anything so it's a moot point at this stage but I don't think either of those parties are in favour of a gloves off free for all free market and neither am I tbh.

Politics isn't a binary between Socialism/Capitalism, it's more of a sliding scale and the slider needs weighted more towards the Socialism in the current age and this will become more apparent as time marches on.

Capitalism needs regulation to prevent running out of control and I think governments should be able to cap private energy providers profit margins in a similar way to France do with their publicly owned energy companies (EDF). This is shielding regular people there from the worst of rising energy costs. EDF energy prices have risen only 4% in France compared to 54% in the UK.

On top of that we should have greater monetary assistance to pensioners and vulnerable people in society in regards to their energy bills, so they aren't left in a position to choose between food and heating or going with the third option of sitting on a bus all day. I don't think this is unreasonable.

Should we allow pensioners to sit freezing in their homes in order to shield some idealistic notion of free market Capitalism.
 
Out of interest, what are the Labour, LibDems or anyone else's practical alternatives to deal with the price the major oil producing companies sell their product for and the prices the major users are prepared to pay to keep costs high in the capitalist free trade market?
Great point. Sometimes it makes me literally laugh out loud when the other political parties criticise the government. btw I'm not saying they don't often deserve it! However when they're then asked 'how would you approach it / what would your policy be?' 9 times out of 10 they just come out with political waffle that has very little substance.

That's the side of politics that bores me. e.g. you'll get Labour saying 'the government need to tax big business more, tax Amazon etc to the hilt!!!' Let's say Labour get in at the next election, I'd love to see how quickly they start taxing all these businesses in line with their pre election rhetoric.
 
However when they're then asked 'how would you approach it / what would your policy be?' 9 times out of 10 they just come out with political waffle that has very little substance.
Often the same with the political posters on this forum. They can all say what they think this government has done wrong but they just will not say what they would do or who could do better and why, when asked. Think they are just habitual moaners.
 
I was in one today. A dreadlocked, crusty wannabe rasta type came in with one of those large, insulated food delivery type boxes on his back. Went to the bar and ordered a glass of tap water. Sat down and plugged his phone into a socket.

Ungrateful freeloader didn't even take his glass back to the bar when he finished. :evil:


How do you know he was a "freeloader."???

FYI, I despise freeloaders, benefit cheats the workshy etc, etc.
 
Not sure what their alternatives are, they aren't in power currently to be able to do anything so it's a moot point at this stage but I don't think either of those parties are in favour of a gloves off free for all free market and neither am I tbh.

Politics isn't a binary between Socialism/Capitalism, it's more of a sliding scale and the slider needs weighted more towards the Socialism in the current age and this will become more apparent as time marches on.

Capitalism needs regulation to prevent running out of control and I think governments should be able to cap private energy providers profit margins in a similar way to France do with their publicly owned energy companies (EDF). This is shielding regular people there from the worst of rising energy costs. EDF energy prices have risen only 4% in France compared to 54% in the UK.

On top of that we should have greater monetary assistance to pensioners and vulnerable people in society in regards to their energy bills, so they aren't left in a position to choose between food and heating or going with the third option of sitting on a bus all day. I don't think this is unreasonable.

Should we allow pensioners to sit freezing in their homes in order to shield some idealistic notion of free market Capitalism.
The point is, energy costs are outside the control of this government. It's not about socialism/capitalism, rather it's about facts and how the markets work.

The previous (and current) price cap on UK suppliers was/is an artificial market control that was (and is) unsustainable. There have been years of underinvestment by all governments, and the green scene dreamers think that we can just stop using anything but wind and sun, and that's completely unrealistic.

So fundamentally when someone states " 'x' government has committed to doing next to f/a about the situation" it is really just a statement based on political bias, not a realistic assessment of the options available.

The current government does have an actual plan to increase nuclear power generation, and that is the only real short/medium term option. There are no immediate options available as the cost of energy on the world market is outside of government control.

One option, and I don't don't if this is viable, would be for the UK to increase its storage capacity for North Sea gas and oil. It seems we currently export almost all of it, rather than use it ourselves.
 
How do you know he was a "freeloader."???

Because all the goods and services he used were paid for by paying punters - ie. me.

Not wanting to be too hard on the bloke. If he's delivering takeaways he's obviously struggling and on the bottom rung of society. He deserves credit for doing some kind of work.

I realise we're no longer permitted to judge, but if everyone did what he did the business wouldn't survive and Tim would no longer be counting his millions.

Anyway, why the name change?
 
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Because all the goods and services he used were paid for by paying punters - ie. me.

Not wanting to be too hard on the bloke. If he's delivering takeaways he's obviously struggling and on the bottom rung of society. He deserves credit for doing some kind of work.

I realise we're no longer permitted to judge, but if everyone did what he did the business wouldn't survive and Tim would no longer be counting his millions.

Anyway, why the name change?

Thank you

FYI, you may not be "permitted to judge" and I'm not sure where to you but where we live, we are allowed to judge.

Re my name change, I've been helping out several people with their woes and a few people have told me that I'm a "good samaritan" and I thought, why not change my forum name.

Thanks
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all Weatherspoons customers 'deadbeats'?

Sticky table tops, smelly carpets, ding ding food & cheep pish fiszzy beer, I mean . . . C'mon !
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all Weatherspoons customers 'deadbeats'?

Sticky table tops, smelly carpets, ding ding food & cheep pish fiszzy beer, I mean . . . C'mon !

Great place for a good full English. The ingredients are as good as most places doing fry ups, unless you're being fleeced for big bucks somewhere. Surprisingly a pint of Thatchers Gold goes very well with it, and the sweetness offsets the salty bacon. As I'm normally having the breakfast at brunch time (11am ish), I'm not part of the Stella at 8 am brigade. The two 'Spoons I occasionally frequent for breakfast are in very good areas of Bristol, where you will be paying silly money for food in the nearby eateries.
 
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