planning freeview in all bedrooms

[Mini1961]

Hi

Could any one advise me on how to set up a system were i can put free view in my self builds 5 beds, study and lounge and what type of cables to us,

Help much appriciateted

Mini1061

 

[RF Lighting]

Are you wanting to have a freeview box in every bedroom (or the facility to do so at least), or just have one freeview box in the lounge for example, whos output can be viewed on all the other TVs?

 

[Mini1961]

in every bedroom at two points if possible or am i asking to much was going to feed fm on same cable if poss?

Mini1961

 

[fattony]

believe you just need to run a coax from your tv aerial booster down to each tv point, I'd wire each tv point back indvidually personally.

 

[FullPint]

You want a distribution amplifier like one of these.

at two points if possible

Not sure what you mean by that...

am i asking to much was going to feed FM on same cable

but that's easy enough - loads of amps send FM and DTV down the same cable (this for example), you just need a diplexer on the end like this.

 

[Mini1961]

Thanks fullpint there just the things giggis, two points on either side of the bedroom so have the option to move tv/radio, any particular cable u guys use,

Cheers Mini1961

 

[FullPint]

No worries . You want CT100 or WF100 cable, preferably CAI approved.

 

[Mini1961]

No worries . You want CT100 or WF100 cable, preferably CAI approved.

is the cheep coax cable out of screwfix ok to use if your on a budget, there can't be that much differance, can there,

Cheers Mini1961

 

[electronicsuk]

No worries . You want CT100 or WF100 cable, preferably CAI approved.

is the cheep coax cable out of screwfix ok to use if your on a budget, there can't be that much differance, can there,

To be blunt, it's c**p. There's a world of difference over any lengthy runs, especially if you can't avoid running near potential sources of inteference such as mains cables. CT100 or equivalent isn't that expensive, I had a 250m drum of foam filled dielectric CT100 off eBay for ~£45 earlier this year.

Re the diplexer plates, I wouldn't bother if it's going to add extra cost. A simple dual outlet plate with a passive splitter will allow you to plug two TV's, two radios, or one of each into every socket. I have *never* come across a problem in a system carrying FM/TV/etc signals without diplexers. No doubt any equipment made in the past decade will have the correct filtering built in, after all, you'll still get weak signals outside the UHF TV band even in a setup fed solely from a TV antenna!

If you're conscious about the amount of cable runs necessary to get TV in every room, there is the option to run one trunk cable and tap off (and I DON'T mean twist the wires together!) at every location where you need an outlet. It wont be any cheaper due to the extra expense of the taps and a proper launch amp to run the system weighted against the use of less cable, though.

 

[Mini1961]

No worries . You want CT100 or WF100 cable, preferably CAI approved.

If you're conscious about the amount of cable runs necessary to get TV in every room, there is the option to run one trunk cable and tap off (and I DON'T mean twist the wires together!) at every location where you need an outlet. It wont be any cheaper due to the extra expense of the taps and a proper launch amp to run the system weighted against the use of less cable, though.

Thanks electronicsuk, the trunk cable to to every room then a tap off, is this what u mean rather than take seperate feeds to a room, ]

Mini1961

 

[electronicsuk]

Thanks electronicsuk, the trunk cable to to every room then a tap off, is this what u mean rather than take seperate feeds to a room

Close, but not exactly. What I was actually suggesting would be to run a single trunk cable around the house, in the same way that you would run a radial circuit. Said trunk cable would start at the aerial + launch amp and pass by all the rooms where you want TV outlets, and end at the furthest point from the distribution amp.

At each room, there would be a multi-outlet tap from which you can run short cables to all the outlets in that room. The tap simply takes a small portion of the signal from the trunk and feeds it to the tap outlet(s), and passes the rest on down the trunk to the next tap.

The above method would keep cable runs to a minimum, but as I said before, it wouldn't be any cheaper than fanning out from a central distribution amp. If you're installing data outlets (which is a good idea in a new build if you haven't considered it) then these will all be wired in a star fashion from a central point, and doing TV distribution in the same way wouldn't add much more hassle.

 

[Mini1961]

Thanks electronicsuk, the trunk cable to to every room then a tap off, is this what u mean rather than take seperate feeds to a room

The above method would keep cable runs to a minimum, but as I said before, it wouldn't be any cheaper than fanning out from a central distribution amp. If you're installing data outlets (which is a good idea in a new build if you haven't considered it) then these will all be wired in a star fashion from a central point, and doing TV distribution in the same way wouldn't add much more hassle.

Thanks
data what do u mean, i.e. internet, goes into a new ball game phone line, broardband

as not put them in yet, any sudgestions on suitable cables would be helpful

Cheers
Mini1961

 

[electronicsuk]

Thanks
data what do u mean, i.e. internet, goes into a new ball game phone line, broardband

as not put them in yet, any sudgestions on suitable cables would be helpful

By data, I mean for use with computer networks over ethernet. Even if you don't already, you'll probably end up with more than one computer at some point in the future. Having proper data cabling installed at this point will make it a lot easier to share your internet connection between multiple computers, transfer files, share printers, and whatever else you might want to do. Heck, all the phones in my house run from the network!

You can use wireless, but it is and will never be as fast or reliable as a proper cabled connection. It makes sense to installed RJ45 data plates in all bedrooms, office or study, and behind the TV where you might want to have a media centre at some point.

If you don't have any prior knowledge of data cabling then it might make sense to at least get some assistance in wiring the outlets. You can still easily run the cables yourself, all you need is some cat5e or cat6 cable to run to each location where you want an outlet and then run the whole lot back to one central location.

Of course, it all depends on budget and whether or not you have a need for this. Our house has a fair few computers and anything that can be attached to the network probably is. To give you an idea of what can be done, we have all our phones connected to the network and can make internal calls through a network PBX. We also have networked IP CCTV cameras and networked media centres that allow us to record and watch TV shows from anywhere in the house.

 

[Mini1961]

wow......i don't think im up for this yey, but in my study i would like internet connection in a few places and in lounge and main bedroom is this easy to do?

Ta

 

[Softus]

These.