Plumbing

[cumbriahandyman]

Have been to quote a job plumbing in a dishwasher. Unfortunately there are no sockets below the worktop anywhere.

I was considering cutting off the moulded plug so as to pass through worktop and then fit a 13 amp plug. But was wondering how this would affect the customers warranty on the dishwasher?

 

[sparkwright]

Removed for being total bolox.

 

[DetlefSchmitz]

Take a look at the installation instructions. A number I have seem have suggested doing just what you proposed, so at least in those cases it can't invalidate a guarantee.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I was considering cutting off the moulded plug so as to pass through worktop ...

That's a bit sh*te....

 

[conny]

I was considering cutting off the moulded plug so as to pass through worktop ...

That's a bit sh*te....

Doesn't stop a lot of people doing it though and as kitchen electrics are covered by the regs as a special location its much safer,and also legal, than him installing a fused spur to a socket out of sight.

 

[ebee]

Well it's not going to look too good but purely from a technical side.

Personally I do prefer having a means to cut the power to the appliance without having to pull appliance out live or switching off the whole circuit to do so.

I don't like having such means hidden in an adjacent cupboard cluttered with pots and pans and/or attached to said cupboards.

I would favour an switch above the worktop controlling a socket below the worktop but for a ring a 20A DP switch is not listed as allowed for a ring final (although in the real world many might actually be OK to use for such).

If a SFCU is used you would then have two fuses in line with no discrimination.

So, purely from a technical point of view it might be a good idea but I don't think a customer would be really happy if you did it.

As for the warranty, I think you'd certainly meet some resistance on a manufacturers warranty unless they specifically allowed it.

I suspect that, were you to go to court to test this then a judgement might well be that it is perfectly reasonable for you to remove the existing plugtop and fit a new one providing you do it correctly and it would be unreasonable in those circumstances not to honour such warranty (Less the cost of removing/replacing said plugtop to remove/test the appliance). As I said "I suspect that", I might well be totally wrong in that and you'd only find out if you went down the legal route.

You might now decide it's less hassle to consider other options.

 

[bernardgreen]

The lead through a small hole and re-fitted plug is acceptable provided there is enough length of lead to enable the appliance to be pulled forward for repairs etc. I doubt any manufacturer would consider a properly fitted replacement plug would invalidate a warrantee if there was fault in the machine.

When pushing the appliance into place pull all the spare lead up through the hole so it cannot become trapped under the appliance as it is pushed into place, then feed the spare lead back through the hole.

 

[riveralt]

as kitchen electrics are covered by the regs as a special location

 

[ebee]

change "as a" to "as are" then and his sentence is correct

 

[conny]

Thanks ebee.
At least someone knows what I'm trying to say.

 

[cumbriahandyman]

I was considering cutting off the moulded plug so as to pass through worktop ...

That's a bit sh*te....

Being your usual obnoxious self I see BAS.

An amateur built the Ark. Any proof it ever existed?

Professionals built the Titanic. Human error sank it, but we know it existed.

 

[canduit]

I was considering cutting off the moulded plug so as to pass through worktop ...

That's a bit sh*te....

Possibly not; it could be hidden by a microwave? When one considers other visible plugs, such as kettle, toaster, blender, coffee machine, radio, and the cost of alternative supply arrangements, I'd say go for it Cumbriahandyman.