Putin's war

[JohnD]

"Russia said it had decided to “dramatically” scale back military activities in the Kyiv and Chernihiv areas"

FT.com

Apparently some people believe them.

I wonder what the truth is?

Regrouping and rolling in reinforcements and supplies?

I bet the elderly gentlemen in the tractor factories have been working overtime to turn out spare parts to repair some of the broken-down tanks.

"Russia says it will ‘dramatically reduce’ military activity around Kyiv

Western officials are sceptical about Moscow pledge made following talks with Ukraine in Turkey an hour ago

Russia has decided to “dramatically” scale back its military activities in the Kyiv area, a top Moscow defence ministry official said following a fresh round of peace talks with Ukrainian counterparts in Istanbul.

Alexander Fomin, Russia’s deputy defence minister, said the move was intended to “increase mutual trust” as he announced it in Turkey after face-to-face talks concluded on Tuesday.

But western officials cautioned against taking Moscow’s pledge at face value. “Nothing we have seen so far suggests that Putin and his colleagues are particularly serious about the talks. They are likely just playing for time,” said one."

 

[^woody^]

When has Putin ever told the truth? He's a liar and can't be trusted either

 

[JohnD]

On the subject of the big tank factory, Wikipedia says:

"During the Russian invasion of Ukraine, following international application of sanctions against Russia, there was a report that production at Uralvagonzavod might have halted due to a shortage of imported parts.[15]"

Maybe it's true.

Even Toyota can't get enough chips to build cars fast enough.

 

[catlad]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ukraine+agony+the+concealed+war
This is another view of what is going on in that region.

 

[gas112]

Would it be to do with the peace talks today were ukraine said they would be a neutral country ?

 

[Dork Lard]

Look at it this way . . . .

Putin has gone in to do a job. When the job is done he walks away happy.

The only 2 outcomes to war are :

1. Total surrender of your enemy.

Or.

2. A negotiated settlement.

(There is a 3rd option but that is unthinkable here)

On the basis that they are talking, they will go for the 2nd option.

Please stop having your thoughts on this skirmish being formed or influenced by the crap that your MSM is feeding you.

 

[JohnD]

On the basis that they are talking, they will go for the 2nd option.

if you assume sincerity

A rash assumption.

 

[Dork Lard]

if you assume sincerity

There is no sincerity in war JohnD'ski.

 

[Trazor]

When has Putin ever told the truth? He's a liar and can't be trusted either

I think some one else, also has his measure.

 

[JohnD]

A rash assumption.

'ski.

you are not speaking to your Polish friends today.

 

[Dork Lard]

you are not speaking to your Russian friends today.

Are you on the side on the Yookranians today JohnD'ski ?

I'm surprised, what with you being a Marxist revolutionary 'n all that.

 

[transam]

As said Putin cannot be trusted

he does not have the troop numbers there to take Kyiv

so he he is going to consolidate the areas in the Donbas region

the Ukraine is now in a war of attrition

 

[transam]

Neutrality ???

Belgium was neutral during both world wars

it did not stop the German army rolling through the country as it sought to invade France ????

 

[Dork Lard]

As said Putin cannot be trusted

he does not have the troop numbers there to take Kyiv

so he he is going to consolidate the areas in the Donbas region

the Ukraine is now in a war of attrition

Last month you was an expert immunologist, & now you are Sun Tzu's b@st#rd child.

 

[transam]

Last month you was an expert immunologist, & now you are Sun Tzu's b@st#rd child.

and this month you are a fruit cake

than again that’s nothing new