qualifications

[ccrowe]

Retakes supervised by someone desperate to get his organisation's pass-rate up, no doubt. None of the individual module tests or the final one are open book, either first time around or on retakes.

OR....

ncoups - are you sure the people you saw weren't doing 2381/2382?

Doh, I was thinking of 2381/2 not EAL. My mistake.

 

[ncoups]

Defo wasn't wiring regs, it was "EAL certificate for domestic electrical installers level 2" is that the same as you guys are talking about?
A couple of people sat in our classroom for about 3 hours then took exam with open book, and they weren't re-takers.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

You should report that training/examination centre to EAL immediately.

 

[jockspark]

hi there are 17 units and off the top of my head
4 are practical ( work shop ) i can,t imagine anyone
failing this micky mouse course

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I agree it is really scary to think that there are people so thick and/or incompetent that they would fail. But there are - I have sat in a classroom next to them.

And even scarier to think that they might scrape through at a second attempt with the help of notes in front of them.

 

[jockspark]

I agree it is really scary to think that there are people so thick and/or incompetent that they would fail. But there are - I have sat in a classroom next to them.

And even scarier to think that they might scrape through at a second attempt with the help of notes in front of them.

it scares me even more the ones that passed who should
never be allowed near an electrical install

 

[josh1e]

supposing i wanted to make the leap from diy'er to basic certification, i presume from what i've read so far that the domestic installer qualification would be best, having had a quick look on there website, i notice :-

F/102/7127 - Applicable building regulations for domestic electrical installation

J/102/7128 - Electrical safety legislation, regulations, standards and terminology

L/102/7129 - Domestic electrical installation – pre work survey/inspection

F/102/7130 - Domestic electrical installation – safe isolation procedures

J/102/7131 - Identifying unsafe electrical situations

L/102/7132 - Domestic electrical earthing and bonding requirements

R/102/7133 - Electrical test procedures

Y/102/7134 - Selecting domestic electrical cable and components

D/102/7135 - Installing and replacing electrical components

H/102/7136 - Checking the correct and safe operation of installed electrical components

K/102/7137 - Recording of electrical test results and completing certificates

M/102/7138 - Installing and/or rerouting domestic electrical cables

T/102/7139 - Domestic electrical installation – special locations

K/102/7140 - Understanding of new domestic electrical circuit requirements

M/102/7141 - Installing domestic lighting circuits

T/102/7142 - Maintaining domestic electrical installations

A/102/7143 - Basic understanding of 3 phase supplies

now, it's easy to say yea i understand 3 phase based on info from this forum, but i never had any reason to know it before, also from other qualifications i have, some answers have to be specifically worded, an answer in laymans terminology isn't good enough....

so where would i look to see if my knowledge is good enough to consider doing this course? the module's they state above, is there a course that goes with this which would ensure my knowledge is upto scratch? what should i be reading inline with this qualification to prepare & ensure i am actually ready for it?

(i realise there are lots of good / essential publications like 17th edition, building regs Part P, L & M etc, but i mean directly inline with the course)

thanks

 

[Pengwyn]

Gazzer.
What do you need to get certified with NICeic ?

All you need is the 17th regs according to the NIC guy I spoke to yesterday. Of course then you have to have 2 jobs inspected and go through the NIC guys questioning which may be more difficult than the 17th exam .

I am a non practicing electrician who is researching coming back into the profession. I agree it is not clear what you need to do to get recognised. There are may contradicting opinions.
I went to one company in Liverpool who recommended I do a £3600 course that they could provide . Considering I served an indentured apprenticeship in industry I suspected they where attempting to rip me off. .

The route I am choosing is this.
17th regs
EAL Domestic Installer (probably not needed but won't do any harm.)
Inspect and test C&G. (again not needed but will be a good refresher)

Then the NIC inspection. One job is a major (CU replacement is ok) and another job is a minor (I was thinking putting some security lights in my back garden anyway .

I hope this helps.