It's all a bit confusing. He has said that he reacts to the hot water "even when its cool", which one might take (as Mike has done) to mean that it was mixed with cold water.
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Hi John,
In another thread the OP states
"when I heated the cold water from the bathroom cold tap and used it to bathe I didn't come out in tiny little blisters or itch"
If I understand the various postings, and have drawn the right conclusions about the property water supply then this would reject contamination from communal cold water cistern(s).
I'm loathe to suggest any possible causes for the OP's reported reaction as I don't think that there is enough information, and what information there is is either inconsistent or incomplete. I have come across some skin reactions in various specific conditions but I don't think that suggesting them will be helpful to the OP.
If the reaction is a severe as reported then it's a medical issue first and foremost.
Regards
Ah. I've only been looking at this thread.
In view of the above quote (taken with everything else), I'm inclined to agree.
Same here.
Exactly - as I've said more than once myself ... and, as I've also said, the GP is not really the right person to be addressing it. GP's can deal satisfactory with straightforward skin conditions but, as he appears to have admitted himself, he seems to have come to the end of what he is able to offer in this case.
Kind Regards, John
Or it can be that when he heats his cold water it kills bacteria that may be causing his issues, again this depends on how hot he he heated his cold water, did he allow it to go very hot and waited for it to get a bit cold to take bath without mixing further cold water into it, only he can confirm this, until he can tell us how he did and whether or not he mixed cold water into it, until then it is all speculation, I have warned OP that if he did go ahead and changed his supply to mains, there is no guarantee, and then he may well have to move his flat, or keep staying and seek specialist help on his condition, either way it is going to cost him some money or time.
So I hope everything goes OK for him, my Merry Christmas to all.
BTW, I was going to suggest to him, if he suffers from other medical conditions such as diabetes, and heavy smokers, as I am, It is not uncommon for diabetic people to suffer from rashes on lower part of legs and arms to come up with rashes after taking a hot water shower or bath, it is to do with blood vessels being constricted in diabetic patients and when they take hot water bath, the vessels dilate causing extra blood to flow under the skin and this sudden increase on blood rushing can cause an itch, and if one tries to relive this itch by scratching the skin can result in damage to the skin which may turn into blisters and deep rashes, if a person experiences such itch, it is best not to scratch that area but to rub the area gently to relieve the itch and apply itch calming lotions, but I know they don't always work instantly. i am diabetic so i suffer from a sudden urge to scratch lower part of my legs and top of the feet, there used to be times when i almost ripped my skin off the top of my feet! The itch is very strong, I don't get it any more and it was to do with allergy to my cats, I now take anti-histamine tablets and don't get this itch when taking a hot water shower. This is from my personal experience.
Indeed it was in my first post to OP that I asked him so many questions about his medical history then. I asked him if he suffered from any allergies and if he had seen his doctor and if he has prescribed him any anti-histamine tablets as those commonly used by hay fever sufferers. I now take one tablet every 3 days and all my itching is gone, occasionally I get intense itching on my head, and forehead and it comes up in blisters, when one of my cats chooses to sleep right on top of my head, again It goes away if I take one of those pills, or my doctor has also given me some steroid based scalp medication, that gives me instant relief. Thanks to these pills and scalp medication that i only have to use very rarely, my cats are not going anywhere yet, they are staying and they are allowed to sleep on my head, and I love it when they tickle my scalp! They may have gone out in filth, or killed a mice still who cares, I love my mogies. (Obviously I am not a medical doctor so i can't suggest him to start taking any anti-histamine pills, only his doctor can suggest or prescribe him those, even though they are available over the counter) But remember my condition erupted when taking hot water shower or when I took my shoes off when an intense itching would start on top of my feet, and this itch would then start spreading until the whole lower leg becomes itchy, spreads like fire! the cause was not related directly to hot water shower but rather allergy to my cats, may be OP lives in a flat where previously cats or other animals may have lived, and allergy can take time to develop, I was never allergic to cats before but now I am, so may be his carpets were not steam cleaned etc when he moved in 4 years ago, and there may still be some allergens and may be he also needs to look at having his carpets cleaned thoroughly.
So yes I agree that may be he should seek further help before spending on plumbing, may be if he speaks to his GP regarding a possible allergy and he may be able to prescribe some anti-histamine tablets that may help his condition better than ointments.
So I hope everything goes OK for him, my Merry Christmas to all.
BTW, I was going to suggest to him, if he suffers from other medical conditions such as diabetes, and heavy smokers, as I am, It is not uncommon for diabetic people to suffer from rashes on lower part of legs and arms to come up with rashes after taking a hot water shower or bath, it is to do with blood vessels being constricted in diabetic patients and when they take hot water bath, the vessels dilate causing extra blood to flow under the skin and this sudden increase on blood rushing can cause an itch, and if one tries to relive this itch by scratching the skin can result in damage to the skin which may turn into blisters and deep rashes, if a person experiences such itch, it is best not to scratch that area but to rub the area gently to relieve the itch and apply itch calming lotions, but I know they don't always work instantly. i am diabetic so i suffer from a sudden urge to scratch lower part of my legs and top of the feet, there used to be times when i almost ripped my skin off the top of my feet! The itch is very strong, I don't get it any more and it was to do with allergy to my cats, I now take anti-histamine tablets and don't get this itch when taking a hot water shower. This is from my personal experience.
Indeed it was in my first post to OP that I asked him so many questions about his medical history then. I asked him if he suffered from any allergies and if he had seen his doctor and if he has prescribed him any anti-histamine tablets as those commonly used by hay fever sufferers. I now take one tablet every 3 days and all my itching is gone, occasionally I get intense itching on my head, and forehead and it comes up in blisters, when one of my cats chooses to sleep right on top of my head, again It goes away if I take one of those pills, or my doctor has also given me some steroid based scalp medication, that gives me instant relief. Thanks to these pills and scalp medication that i only have to use very rarely, my cats are not going anywhere yet, they are staying and they are allowed to sleep on my head, and I love it when they tickle my scalp! They may have gone out in filth, or killed a mice still who cares, I love my mogies. (Obviously I am not a medical doctor so i can't suggest him to start taking any anti-histamine pills, only his doctor can suggest or prescribe him those, even though they are available over the counter) But remember my condition erupted when taking hot water shower or when I took my shoes off when an intense itching would start on top of my feet, and this itch would then start spreading until the whole lower leg becomes itchy, spreads like fire! the cause was not related directly to hot water shower but rather allergy to my cats, may be OP lives in a flat where previously cats or other animals may have lived, and allergy can take time to develop, I was never allergic to cats before but now I am, so may be his carpets were not steam cleaned etc when he moved in 4 years ago, and there may still be some allergens and may be he also needs to look at having his carpets cleaned thoroughly.
So yes I agree that may be he should seek further help before spending on plumbing, may be if he speaks to his GP regarding a possible allergy and he may be able to prescribe some anti-histamine tablets that may help his condition better than ointments.
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Totally agree - sometimes it's necessary to ask for a referral but I'm surprised that, if the OP's condition is as severe as suggested, and the GP has admitted 'defeat' that he has not been referred already.
There is no way that bacterial activity could produce symptoms as rapidly after exposure as the OP has reported. It occasionally happens that people become allergic to surface antigens on bacteria, but in such cases the bacterial would be just as antigenic when killed as when alive.
Kind Regards, John
Agreed, but I suspect that there may well be an appreciable amount of additional pertinent information about which we are unaware.
Kind Regards, John
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If there's a bacteria causing his condition then I suspect Porton Down should get involved.
There is no bacteria found in everyday situations that could produce these symptoms.
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I'm still not entirely sure that the story is complete (or indeed something else!) - I find it odd that the OP's landlord isn't concerned about the condition and seems happy to let his property been altered in his absence (for two months) without any supervision or inspection.
Quite. In fact, I'd go further and say that I'm pretty sure that we don't have all the information that would be needed to get a full understanding of everything that is going on.
Indeed, but I again suspect that we don't know everything. The landlord may, of course, be considering the fact that (we think) no-one else using the same water has had similar problems, and is thus concluding that, at least in some senses, it is an OP-specific medical issue.
Kind Regards, John
would lead pipe work cause a problem
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To be honest, I'd rather not list possible water-borne allergens/compounds as there are a few (none of which I've ever seen provoke such a reportedly rapid and extreme reaction).
Lead pipework in itself is not as big a problem as the name (lead) suggests. In use, the inside of a lead pipe quickly becomes coated with lead salts which remove the direct contact between the water and the pipe. The addition of chlorine to the water promotes the formation of lead chloride on the internal surface. Lead chloride has a very low solubility in water. In the UK the chlorine level is at about a tenth of the maximum level of the guideline set by WHO.
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Agreed - should have made that clear in my earlier reply.
For what it's worth, the same here. What the OP appears to be describing is, in my experience, (medically) very unusual.
Kind Regards, John
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